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uninstalling sp2
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UltimaParadox
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nsc1120 said:
Depends if they did an archive install or not, you should be able to find it in your add/remove programs, windows components if they did.
Of course you might want to think about finding a fix for your Ethernet card, possibly searching the microsoft knowledgebase, as time passes so will the need to get SP2.
http://support.microsft.com
If you haven't already I would do a quick uninstall of the card first and reinstall it, could be just a corrupted driver.
Hi Mr. sand, meet Mr. head.
SP2 isn't some sort of optional download. It's contains security fixes, if you don't want those, then by all means you don't need your ethernet card.
This same logic is what will cause people to screams in 6 months when xyz worm is going around and you get hit because the system isn't patched.
SP2 isn't some sort of optional download. It's contains security fixes, if you don't want those, then by all means you don't need your ethernet card.
This same logic is what will cause people to screams in 6 months when xyz worm is going around and you get hit because the system isn't patched.
OK... Let me just briefly say, that yes you can 'get away' with it, but your doing just that. Connect your machine to an open network, for say... 30 minutes.
Here's the thing, you may be golden where you are, with your network. Remove that security blanket (bring the machine over to a friends house, LAN party, WiFi connection (neighbor), etc.) and you'll learn quickly WHY you patch. Oh, and by the way, that is NOT something your likely to be thinking about. It's also NOT something I would ever recommend. What if someone breaches your router (totally possible)?
Talk to anyone who makes a living off of this stuff who is worth their salt, you ALWAYS want to patch for security issues.
Finally, your the exception that proves the rule. Since only 1/1000000 people can do it, that proves the other 999999 are the rule.
Hell, I could have run sans AV and spyware, since my machine has never found any. Or I could cancle my insurance policy on my car, I haven't used it in a while. See where I'm going?
Here's the thing, you may be golden where you are, with your network. Remove that security blanket (bring the machine over to a friends house, LAN party, WiFi connection (neighbor), etc.) and you'll learn quickly WHY you patch. Oh, and by the way, that is NOT something your likely to be thinking about. It's also NOT something I would ever recommend. What if someone breaches your router (totally possible)?
Talk to anyone who makes a living off of this stuff who is worth their salt, you ALWAYS want to patch for security issues.
Finally, your the exception that proves the rule. Since only 1/1000000 people can do it, that proves the other 999999 are the rule.
Hell, I could have run sans AV and spyware, since my machine has never found any. Or I could cancle my insurance policy on my car, I haven't used it in a while. See where I'm going?
Yes, I know what you're saying. I already had SP2 installed a while ago so don't worry. 
In my area, it is actually spyware-infested. On average of 1 to 3 minutes of just installing Windows XP, you're quickly infected with some blaster variant or the other new stuff out there. I don't have that many enemies though, so hackers are almost non-existent for me. Though I did have two cases when my router detected two hackers trying to connect to me, but my SP1 installation (with proper tweaks) basically threw out their connection not letting any sort of response to them. Also my router has this unique feature that if it does detect a hacker attacking our network, it simply becomes null (a.k.a. shut down network temporarily). So, I am pretty well protected, though not the best efficient way.
And I did bring my PC to an open ended warehouse place (for a Quake III tourney). I don't recall any problems with security either. Though I admit, over time SP1 would become obsolete as most hackers would find many ways to overcome the security features it has.
And well, computer security and car insurance is similar but slightly different. Car insurance protects for your *life*. Computers don't-- not unless it blows you up into pieces, if you know what I'm saying.
-J.
In my area, it is actually spyware-infested. On average of 1 to 3 minutes of just installing Windows XP, you're quickly infected with some blaster variant or the other new stuff out there. I don't have that many enemies though, so hackers are almost non-existent for me.
Though I did have two cases when my router detected two hackers trying to connect to me, but my SP1 installation (with proper tweaks) basically threw out their connection not letting any sort of response to them. Also my router has this unique feature that if it does detect a hacker attacking our network, it simply becomes null (a.k.a. shut down network temporarily). So, I am pretty well protected, though not the best efficient way.And I did bring my PC to an open ended warehouse place (for a Quake III tourney). I don't recall any problems with security either. Though I admit, over time SP1 would become obsolete as most hackers would find many ways to overcome the security features it has.
And well, computer security and car insurance is similar but slightly different. Car insurance protects for your *life*. Computers don't-- not unless it blows you up into pieces, if you know what I'm saying.
-J.
I have been to the underbelly of the Internet, and I made it back to tell the tale. My rig made it back, too. A lot of Microsoft disciples paint SP2 as a holy anointment that will save us poor sinners from the boundless evil, but unknown dispair that lurks in cyberspace. We will surley die without its blessing.
Nothing could be further from the truth. All these security concerns have already been addressed by third parties, and the savvy have known about, and used, adequate protection for some time now. SP2 only partially addresses security issues anyway. Anyone care to place a bet on whether there is some upcoming fix, I mean Critical Update, for some Windows component, due to security concerns?
If you are aware of the risks out there, and you know how to defend against those risks, you are safer than those who would have you believe that SP2 is the answer to your prayers.
Nothing could be further from the truth. All these security concerns have already been addressed by third parties, and the savvy have known about, and used, adequate protection for some time now. SP2 only partially addresses security issues anyway. Anyone care to place a bet on whether there is some upcoming fix, I mean Critical Update, for some Windows component, due to security concerns?
If you are aware of the risks out there, and you know how to defend against those risks, you are safer than those who would have you believe that SP2 is the answer to your prayers.
Well to get this thread kinda on track, what else is broken, can you please list them, so we can see if it's a program issue, or a machine issue?
You can always uninstall from Add/Remove Programs.
Edit:
And for those who discuss SP1 etc, it's all about castles and moats, just cause you have a good moat (router) doesn't mean the moat can't be breached. You should always have a fall back plan, since the internet is NOT a safe environment. And yes, I've had people hack my linksys router and log onto my LAN, fortunatly for me, I had other deterrents in place, strong passwords on all shares, and up to date on patches. They weren't able to breach my box, and yes I verified that there weren't any hidden hooks/drivers when I was done. (Something I don't think many people on this forum could guarantee. )
You can always uninstall from Add/Remove Programs.
Edit:
And for those who discuss SP1 etc, it's all about castles and moats, just cause you have a good moat (router) doesn't mean the moat can't be breached. You should always have a fall back plan, since the internet is NOT a safe environment. And yes, I've had people hack my linksys router and log onto my LAN, fortunatly for me, I had other deterrents in place, strong passwords on all shares, and up to date on patches. They weren't able to breach my box, and yes I verified that there weren't any hidden hooks/drivers when I was done. (Something I don't think many people on this forum could guarantee.
)Exactly! Having other deterrents in place is key to security. I honestly believe that without precautionary measures, security cannot be taken for granted...service pack, or no service pack.Ranma_Sao said:snip, snip, snip... I had other deterrents in place, strong passwords on all shares, and up to date on patches. They weren't able to breach my box, and yes I verified that there weren't any hidden hooks/drivers when I was done. (Something I don't think many people on this forum could guarantee.
Arminiusdestiny
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i uninstalled sp2 by using system restore. i know what your talking about with huge problems with hardware and other things...my roommate installed sp2 and his video driver was deleted...not a huge problem, but still, its really gay. also, ever since i installed sp2, windows explorer has crashed everytime i try to open my family guy folder(not to mention numerous other folders.) everyone ive talked to that has downloaded sp2 has nothing but bad things to say about it and has taken it off by day 2 or3 of having it.
system restore worked best for me because nothing was changed on my computer by the time i was fed up with sp2.
as for security issues...ill take my chances for awhile until i hear some good news about it.
system restore worked best for me because nothing was changed on my computer by the time i was fed up with sp2.
as for security issues...ill take my chances for awhile until i hear some good news about it.
GeForceX said:
It's not about if you've been infect BEFORE this moment. It's about protecting yourself in the FUTURE from FUTURE threats. That's why you update and always put the latest patches on. People like you, who say they don't need the latest patches are always the ones calling me and asking me to get rid of a virus. Don't be stupid....if there's an update to be had, install it.
Me? Stupid? No.Did I say I'm against patches?
Patches are generally good and yes I take advantage of that. What I was saying about SP1 is that, I had no problems with SP1 with security or anything else before SP2 came out. Of course I jumped on the SP2 bandwagon. And sometimes you don't need patches to prevent future threat. You just need to disable it, a sacrifice if you will. I said sometimes. <--djnes said:
I didn't say I didn't need it, did I? I didn't call you, did I? I didn't ask to get rid of a virus, did I? I never had a virus for 2 years in the first place.
-J.