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Which is the best for gaming, PS3 or PC? Why and proof?

my computer hardware:
i7 920 4ghz
asus p6tse
sapphire 5870 1 gb
corsair 1600mhz 6 gb 3 stick

I am trying to convince my father for pc, please proof.
 
Both attract their own crowd. A PC will obviously run the games better but also more than likely at a much higher price point. A PS3 still runs games fairly well and is more "casual" generally than the PC. PC gives you the capability to do more than just game and the PS3 also serves as a Blu-ray player.

I have both and game equally on both. Depends if I want to game on my 3 monitor set-up or sit back and relax and game on my 50" plasma.
 
I will post some quotes from the PS3 section of the BF3 forums..


"i put it simple

pc was never made for gaming, youll buy 2000 $ desktop, for gaming you get 1000$

console was made for gaming, 500 $ console, you get 800$ of gaming power

thats because :

1) they are not made for gaming
2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
5) there is 2 hardcore console MICROSOFT and SONY, those have R&D capabilities and COMPETITION between the 2 make console a product without comparision
6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power

console are designed by the best IT in the world and are overclocked to give with few hardware the best, witout burning them, way better then kids of 16 overclock they re desktop

we are speaking of a bussiness with billions of dollars and users"

I rest my case

EDIT: Because the overwhelming lack of common sense I will say this:

I did not write this
I do not agree with this
I posted it as a joke (from a real thread in the BF3 PS3 section).
 
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Krieger91 said:
I will post some quotes from the PS3 section of the BF3 forums..


"i put it simple

pc was never made for gaming, youll buy 2000 $ desktop, for gaming you get 1000$

console was made for gaming, 500 $ console, you get 800$ of gaming power

thats because :

1) they are not made for gaming
2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
5) there is 2 hardcore console MICROSOFT and SONY, those have R&D capabilities and COMPETITION between the 2 make console a product without comparision
6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power

console are designed by the best IT in the world and are overclocked to give with few hardware the best, witout burning them, way better then kids of 16 overclock they re desktop

we are speaking of a bussiness with billions of dollars and users"

I rest my case
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Huh:confused:
 
Not really sure what the point of this is. Are you trying to win an argument with him or trying to show him the light?

To some extent, consoles & PCs offer different things for different audiences so he might never prefer a PC.

On the other hand, PCs are technically superior in just about every way (joysticks for flight sims, wheels for racing, keyboard + mouse for fps/rpg/mmo/rts, controller or keyboard for fighting games, whatever..) so if he simply wants the best gaming experience it should be easy to prove that to him.
[Note: Yes, I know you can use controllers for action games on the console, racing wheels for racing games, etc. But you can for the PC as well and it'll run better and can do other things better as well]


This is a decent read:
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/10/mouse-and-keyboard-vs-console-controller-lets-bury-the-hatchet/

You could setup Crysis 2, MW2, the Orange Box or something on the PS3 and the PC and let him play through both. I'd recommend the Orange Box though since I'm not sure how the other two are on PC (I'm pretty sure MW2 will have some garbage default controls that will limit the PC version, for example).

You could also try Starcraft on the PC vs Starcraft on the n64. CS on the PC vs CS on the Xbox. There's probably tons of other cross platform example but these are a few I can think of off the top of my head.

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Krieger91 said:
I will post some quotes from the PS3 section of the BF3 forums..


"i put it simple

pc was never made for gaming, youll buy 2000 $ desktop, for gaming you get 1000$

console was made for gaming, 500 $ console, you get 800$ of gaming power

thats because :

1) they are not made for gaming
2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
5) there is 2 hardcore console MICROSOFT and SONY, those have R&D capabilities and COMPETITION between the 2 make console a product without comparision
6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power

console are designed by the best IT in the world and are overclocked to give with few hardware the best, witout burning them, way better then kids of 16 overclock they re desktop

we are speaking of a bussiness with billions of dollars and users"

I rest my case
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That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
 
Krieger91 said:
I will post some quotes from the PS3 section of the BF3 forums..


"i put it simple

pc was never made for gaming, youll buy 2000 $ desktop, for gaming you get 1000$

console was made for gaming, 500 $ console, you get 800$ of gaming power

thats because :

1) they are not made for gaming
2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
5) there is 2 hardcore console MICROSOFT and SONY, those have R&D capabilities and COMPETITION between the 2 make console a product without comparision
6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power

console are designed by the best IT in the world and are overclocked to give with few hardware the best, witout burning them, way better then kids of 16 overclock they re desktop

we are speaking of a bussiness with billions of dollars and users"

I rest my case
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whoever the actual author was of that quote.... needs a swift kick in his pre-pubescent gonads.



As far as the actual question.... it all depends on what you like to play and how you like to play. If you are asking about physical capabilities on each, you are comparing apples to oranges. While the PS3 is set on its system specs, the PC you might have to tweak to get great playability out of it. But you also get a wider range of game types


http://internetgames.about.com/od/hardware/a/pcvsconsole.htm


Personally, I used to be a console fan (back in the PS/Dreamcast days). But once I got into computer games, I have always placed PC first in many games and consoles 2nd.

If I want to play a game, my pecking order is PC>360>PS3. First person shooters, MMOs, Rpgs, I can only play on PC. If the game is a 3rd person perspective game, it goes to the consoles.
 
Absolut Talent said:
If I want to play a game, my pecking order is PC>360>PS3. First person shooters, MMOs, Rpgs, I can only play on PC. If the game is a 3rd person perspective game, it goes to the consoles.
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No need, the 3rd person games work just as well and often better on the PC. The camera is usually not as bad in the PC versions. Batman Arkham Asylum is one excellent example of doing 3rd person games right across all platforms. It was just as good if not better with a mouse and keyboard as it was with a game pad. If there is an option I always get everything on the PC. The only times I don't is if the PC port is so bad it can't be enjoyed or it simply isn't available on the PC at all. Hence why I own Mortal Kombat (2011) on the XBOX 360 and not PC. It wasn't available on PC. However Street Fighter IV is available on PC so that's the platform I play it on. Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition will be out cross platform. Guess which platform I'm buying it for?
 
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Dan, are you arguing against Krieger91 or the post he copied and pasted in order to show the ignorance out there? :p

It sounds like you're jumping all over him, lol
 
Damnit, going off to OC consoles badly to higher levels! That will make it $1200 of gaming equipment :D I shall then sell for profit. I wish OC stuff smelt of burning...would give an OCed item more of a familiar smell. Maybe I could get some of that "fresh bread" smell they spray around in the bakery sections of supermarkets and add some to the radiators...

...didn't microsoft give up it's position of "hardcore" console since they decided to release all those dancey dancey twirly games and sell them as it's biggest feature?





As for games better on PC. Show them something like oblivion/fallout on xbox/ps3 with no mods. Then show them the hundreds of possible addons.

Show them something with a simple level editor, eg. a valve game like Left 4 dead. Then left 4 dead on the xbox, with nothing. PC version therefore has 1239491349329 more levels.

Show them steam prices/other PC prices vs console game prices. :D Also things like delivery methods such as DL titles, wider range.

Show them playing a game and alt+tabbing and looking up something online. Then show playing console game, closing game, opening web browser (if on PS3) and opening site.

Then of course graphic levels, even on "console ports".
 
Majinhoju said:
Dan, are you arguing against Krieger91 or the post he copied and pasted in order to show the ignorance out there? :p

It sounds like you're jumping all over him, lol
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I thought it was his post, and his rationale.

Oops. :D
 
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Lets see how far this goes. Im putting my chips on 2 banhammer swings before this thread gets locked.
 
I am glad to see I wasn't the only one who got upset when reading that post, I feel so helpless... that is what the general populace thinks of PC's and gaming.

Here is the original post, if you really want to rage... Wait till you read the discussion about how advanced the CELL processor is...

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5461029.page

For some reason everything expects this game to run at 60 fps and 1080p on consoles, if it doesn't this means we (PC gamers) are stealing their game and they should only pay half price because of the 24 vs 64 player gap. We are the reason the graphics aren't as good for them. I know people always complain about whiners on the pc platform when we get mad about sloppy ports, but this is just a hardware limitation.
 
Electronics are electronics. We would have to break the laws of physics and thermodynamics to think the PS3 could play games in higher graphical fidelity and framerates.

Just kidding. The PS3 is from the future and can play games that won't even be created until we perfect quantum computing.
 
haha. Anyway, they seem to be under the impression that the ps3 is more powerful than the xbox360. w/e, not going to get into that. If so though, that's kind of the same situation we're in. But I doubt devs will do much customization for a platform that's marginally faster than another platform.

Gonna post some choice quotes now:

"What do you guys think DICE could do with the usually forgotten massive strength of the PS3? "

"I bet (And i'm going out on a limb) the PS3 could handle MORE! then a PC I bet if you put uncharted 3 or Killzone 3 on a PC the PC would have a hard time, beside the PS3 is designed like a PC some people call it a mini PC I know I do, The thing is powerful "

"And yes I said it, I think the PS3 can HANDLE MORE THEN A PC! did you get that? And that's my opinion im entitled to it. " - This is what's wrong with America. Idiots can have opinions and that's fine. But they won't bother to learn when they're wrong.

"OMFG! shut the hell up, I WAS WRONG! are you happy?" .... he then proceeds to talk about how he actually wasn't technically wrong if you consider these other things....
 
That thread was painful to read through, I'm just thankful there was someone there to at least partially awake the dreamers.
 
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If you are asking about which has more powerful hardware for running games, it works out like this:

The PS3 is 5 years old. Compared to modern computers, it's obsolete. It's CPU is interesting, but for gaming, it's does not accord itself any better than a modern x86 CPU. It also has a shamefully small amount of RAM. A PC can cram an order of magnitude more texture and geometry data into it's GPU and system RAM than the PS3, meaning you can get much sharper textures, and larger, more detailed game environments.

PC video card development is just as focused on game performance as a console's. If fact, the PS3's GPU was developed for computer video cards first and then ported to the console.

Consoles are designed to play games, cheaply. In 2006, the PS3 did that really well. The hardware was sold for a massive loss, whereas high end computer components have to be sold at a profit. So, for 600 dollars, no, you couldn't beat it. However, today, it's been five years, and the PS3's hardware has not changed, while there has been significant developments in PC hardware. There simply isn't any comparison. A half-way decent gaming PC will be many times more powerful than a PS3 in every relevant category. A gaming PC is just in a different class than a console in both performance and price.

You're comparing a base model Mustang to a Porsche 911. You just have to decide whether the improvement is worth it to you. Personally, I think console games look miserably bad, and being able to play everything at 1080P with AA and AF with sharp textures is a big deal to me. I also like the KB+M control scheme a lot better for many games, and I appreciate the flexibility that the PC offers in terms of modding and other things.

In end though, there is no "best" system. Some people still like NES games. To some people, being able to sit back on your couch and play split screen with your friends is a bigger deal than having nicer graphics and precise controls. The best system is the one you like the most.
 
Krieger91 said:
I will post some quotes from the PS3 section of the BF3 forums..


"i put it simple

pc was never made for gaming, youll buy 2000 $ desktop, for gaming you get 1000$

console was made for gaming, 500 $ console, you get 800$ of gaming power

thats because :

1) they are not made for gaming
2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
5) there is 2 hardcore console MICROSOFT and SONY, those have R&D capabilities and COMPETITION between the 2 make console a product without comparision
6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power

console are designed by the best IT in the world and are overclocked to give with few hardware the best, witout burning them, way better then kids of 16 overclock they re desktop

we are speaking of a bussiness with billions of dollars and users"

I rest my case
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WTF ?
 
Krieger91 said:
"i put it simple

pc was never made for gaming, youll buy 2000 $ desktop, for gaming you get 1000$

console was made for gaming, 500 $ console, you get 800$ of gaming power

thats because :

1) they are not made for gaming
2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
5) there is 2 hardcore console MICROSOFT and SONY, those have R&D capabilities and COMPETITION between the 2 make console a product without comparision
6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power

console are designed by the best IT in the world and are overclocked to give with few hardware the best, witout burning them, way better then kids of 16 overclock they re desktop

we are speaking of a bussiness with billions of dollars and users"
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+1

Epic. ;)
 
A PS3, especially the slim, is quiet, its turnkey, its very compact and on par with gaming laptops in size, and its relatively inexpensive.

However, a computer is useful for so much more and isn't just a one trick pony. Adding a powerful modern GPU that can absolutely RAPE the PS3 in graphical performance is less expensive than buying a laptop w/ integrated graphics and a PS3. PC games still have the largest library overall, the games tend to be less expensive, you have a larger variety of peripherals available (including console style if you want to use xbox controllers), and the games can stay fresh much longer thanks to community mod packs. The computer itself can also be improved piecemeal over time, save for laptops, whereas the PS3 is obsolete at purchase now as its years old technology. HTPC functionality is great for watching not just blurays but online media in a plethora of codecs and you can not only consume but create and share.

In short, if you're tech retarded, buy a PS3. If you're even a tiny bit computer savvy, a PC is a much more useful device for gaming and otherwise. Personally, I have a computer that I use for 95% of gaming, and a PS3 Slim I use for 5% of games that are exclusive and not released to the PC. If I had a PS3 Slim only, I'd have a problem with not getting titles that aren't released for the PS3 as well, which are quite a few.
 
Krieger91 said:
I will post some quotes from the PS3 section of the BF3 forums..


"i put it simple

pc was never made for gaming, youll buy 2000 $ desktop, for gaming you get 1000$

console was made for gaming, 500 $ console, you get 800$ of gaming power

thats because :

1) they are not made for gaming
2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
5) there is 2 hardcore console MICROSOFT and SONY, those have R&D capabilities and COMPETITION between the 2 make console a product without comparision
6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power

console are designed by the best IT in the world and are overclocked to give with few hardware the best, witout burning them, way better then kids of 16 overclock they re desktop

we are speaking of a bussiness with billions of dollars and users"

I rest my case
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I just came to this thread out of curiosity but that quote is so off the trolley it's hilarious!
 
eon said:
PS3 is best it has teh cell
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cEll haz teh SPUs of POAWARz!!!!111111one

I'm not going to get involved in the PC versus console debate. They both have their place. The only losers in this debate are those who bother to participate.

But I will give you a quick breakdown of each side:

Consoles are for people who want a gaming appliance. You can't change much about it, and you're stuck with the same control scheme for nearly every game. You can't adjust any settings or upgrade anything having to do with performance. It is very cheap to purchase however, and (usually) very easy to just pick-up and go (there are some exceptions to this on the PS3, like required firmware updates and required game installs).

PC Gaming is for people who are not afraid to tweak: it's a necessity of the platform. For anything beyond casual flash games, you can't just pop a game disc in and run: you need to check the requirements, install the game and potentially upgrade your drivers...and then you have to choose your settings. But PC gamers reap the benefits: most PC games support gamepads as well as the keyboard, mouse and other more interesting input devices. You get to tweak your game resolution, settings to your heart's content, and if you want more power you can just drop some cash on a video upgrade. PC gamers usually get much higher graphics fidelity, and often get larger maps with more players (especially if the game is developed PC-first). You can also get more life out of game through mod communities and official support (See Valve Software free updates on the PC).
 
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PS3 can browse the web, youtube, netflix, etc. You can hook up a bluetooth mouse/keyboard for that. Then there is BluRay and of course the games. As we all know we're in the console era, so if your dad doesn't care about Starcraft or any other RTS games then there's really no reason to get a PC for gaming unless he really just prefers the mouse/keyboard combo for FPS games and the like. I think we all prefer that, but it's really comparing apples to oranges, since the gamepad is a handicap of sorts the games will play differently on them than they would on PC. Certain tactics you can use on a PC aren't viable on a PS3, etc. Personally, I would just tell him to get a PS3.
 
Console gaming is slower, its casualy paced, less hardcore on every level. If thats the kind of person you are, get the PS3.

PC, has cheaper games by far, if your a mass game buyer, you'll save more money in the end with PC.

Graphics are superior on PC. Most people don't realize that to get the same effect of sitting in front of a 24" PC monitor you have to be sitting (for example) between 4'-5' away from a 42" TV.
They generally sit about 10'+ away (many having unprescribed vision problems) causing them to think their 720p crapstorm is awesome!

In the end, from what i've seen, its all about the games. Hardcore FPS games like battlefield BC2, CS:S, COD (yes its hardcore.. on pc), then you have your MMO's, RTS's, generally considered *Nerdier* games.

Console you have, 3rd person shooters which are 10x better on PC.

The rest are shared equally.

Me personally, i PC game, on a 2011 42" plasma, i play driving games and certain other side scrolling games with an xbox 360 controller.
 
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Krieger91 said:
1) they are not made for gaming
2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
5) there is 2 hardcore console MICROSOFT and SONY, those have R&D capabilities and COMPETITION between the 2 make console a product without comparision
6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power

console are designed by the best IT in the world and are overclocked to give with few hardware the best, witout burning them, way better then kids of 16 overclock they re desktop

we are speaking of a bussiness with billions of dollars and users"

I rest my case
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wtf dude?

they are not made for gaming
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It's a multipurpose system. It can do whatever. Costs more? Sure...but it can do gaming.

2) they are not overclocked, you can do that, but youll do it really badly and make it even worst
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So what if it's not OCed? You don't NEED to OC to game. I OCed and did fine. You can BUY OCed PCs too.

3) console are overclocked by 20 years experienced engineer
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I know engineers with less experience than that working on hardware. Moreover, overclocked? The fuck? Consoles aren't OCed. You don't know what OCing means. The CPU and GPU are designed for a clock speed and voltage.

4) console software is designed by the guys above only 4 gaming
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Uhhh....no. My 360 does DVDs, streaming netflix, media center...ESPN...chat. MS is going for the home entertainment thing. 3 screens in the cloud and all.

6) windows or other operating system allow gaming but also other 1000 things
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So does the XBox and PS3 OS. Weeee.

7) take an example of the new 3D awesome graphic card, or those card that enable you to use 3 display. many people buy those just because are the most awesome but do not use triple screen sorrownd or 3d display
that way you ll use like 50% of the power
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3 screens and turn down graphics, or one screen with awesome graphics...moreover, THREE SCREENS COST TOO MUCH FOR MANY.


console are designed by the best IT in the world
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This is an insult to hardware and software engineers. IT != engineer. IT is someone setting up servers and whatnot. Important people, sure...but they're not designing consoles.

Christ dude, wth is this.
 
Cheetoz said:
lol at when he realizes what a waste refuting that quote was.
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Because I'm sure that he, like you, will not be able to see past the first line of the post.

I don't care if it's from the BF3 forums, it's still misleading bullshit.
 
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