Renegade87
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I've been busy with other things lately guys. Has there been any news on when the new nVidia GPU's (GeForce 300 series?) will be released?
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GeForce 300's - When?
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leSLIe
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tomorrow
with tomorrow i mean late October, or early November or sometime December
with tomorrow i mean late October, or early November or sometime December
ElMoIsEviL
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2010.. it's delayed till next year (announcement should be end of this year with boards available in 2010).
Night_Hawk-19
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Probabily wait till Windows 7 is fully released retail.
Like that's anything new.
edifyingkarma
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I don't know but I speculate later this fall due to the massive price cuts from the Red and Green sides. If they don't intend to release a new product line until Q3 next year then why would they slash prices this low? I think they are liquidating there current lines in preparation for their new product.
O course its all speculation since nothing has been officially announced
O course its all speculation since nothing has been officially announced
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Where?
Probably from Charlie's (of the inq) new site since that's the only place making that dumb claim. Charlie is a moron and all he does is spew fud about nvidia.
It's pretty funny how people call him out on inaccurate information and then he threatens to ban anyone who corrects him.
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Probably from Charlie's (of the inq) new site since that's the only place making that dumb claim. Charlie is a moron and all he does is spew fud about nvidia.
It's pretty funny how people call him out on inaccurate information and then he threatens to ban anyone who corrects him.
he's hilarious to make fun of
Well to the extent there's any real info out there, it seems to indicate nVidia's GT300 will launch at the end of 2009 at the earliest and more likely 2010. Not all that surprising since nVidia claims it is a new architecture (in the same way the 8800 was a new architecture over the 7800). Takes more time to get that right than just a tweak on the existing architecture. nVidia hasn't given an official date yet.
ATi has claimed they'll have their next gen parts out around about the Windows 7 release, which is slated for October. We'll see if that happens or not, there could always be problems, but as far as I know that's their official timeline.
So if you have to have an upgrade in the next month, well then you aren't getting either company's next gen parts. If you have to have an upgrade at Christmas, you will almost certainly be able to get ATi's part and maybe nVidia's but perhaps not. If you can wait till early 2010, they should all be out.
Now personally I wouldn't worry about it too much. Much like with DX10, we aren't going to see DX11 be a big deal right away. It'll take time before games use it at all, and more time before they use it in any serious fashion. It isn't as though new games will start coming out right away that need DX11 to run.
Personally I'll wait until both companies have their next gen units out. If you have a high end card (and I'm presuming you do if you are looking at a new high end card) it isn't as though there is anything that it doesn't rip apart. On my 280 everything runs 1920x1200 full options at a high speed. So while I'm always interested in new hardware, I don't need to get it to make a game run well.
ATi has claimed they'll have their next gen parts out around about the Windows 7 release, which is slated for October. We'll see if that happens or not, there could always be problems, but as far as I know that's their official timeline.
So if you have to have an upgrade in the next month, well then you aren't getting either company's next gen parts. If you have to have an upgrade at Christmas, you will almost certainly be able to get ATi's part and maybe nVidia's but perhaps not. If you can wait till early 2010, they should all be out.
Now personally I wouldn't worry about it too much. Much like with DX10, we aren't going to see DX11 be a big deal right away. It'll take time before games use it at all, and more time before they use it in any serious fashion. It isn't as though new games will start coming out right away that need DX11 to run.
Personally I'll wait until both companies have their next gen units out. If you have a high end card (and I'm presuming you do if you are looking at a new high end card) it isn't as though there is anything that it doesn't rip apart. On my 280 everything runs 1920x1200 full options at a high speed. So while I'm always interested in new hardware, I don't need to get it to make a game run well.
I'm guessing sometime in the fall, but I think that it will be sooner than people think.
Prices for the current gen have gone way down.
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Given the poor yields @ TSMC's 40 nm process, the high-end for both NVIDIA and ATI, probably won't see the light of day this year. If they are "launched", it's going to be a paper launch or a very limited supply one.
We may see some mid-range parts being released first though, in both camps. The "working silicon" that some mentioned from AMD (what was shown @ Computex) was a mid-range part, the equivalent of RV740 for the RV8xx line. But no one knows for sure if it was actually a DX11 card, since the demos they used to show it were the EXACT same as the ones they used for the HD 48xx launch.
So to sum up, and this is my guess based on the current rumors, if GT300 and RV870 are released this year, they will exist in very limited supply, but I don't think there's any doubt that some DX11 GPUs will be released this year, to coincide with Windows 7's launch, but they will most likely be just some low or mid-range parts.
Probably from Charlie's (of the inq) new site since that's the only place making that dumb claim. Charlie is a moron and all he does is spew fud about nvidia.
It's pretty funny how people call him out on inaccurate information and then he threatens to ban anyone who corrects him.
I think Charlie got booted from the Inq.
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He was and it took them long enough to get rid of that idiot.
Probably from Charlie's (of the inq) new site since that's the only place making that dumb claim. Charlie is a moron and all he does is spew fud about nvidia.
It's pretty funny how people call him out on inaccurate information and then he threatens to ban anyone who corrects him.
It's what usually happens with liars isn't it ? When they get caught, they get defensive...
Really? Someone posted on OCN that he finally received the boot from TheInquirer and linked to his new anti-nvidia rant blog but I havent been able to find a confirmation of his firing.
No one knows for sure what happened. One of the rumors is that he thought he was "too good" and wanted more money. The Inquirer didn't think so and so he was "invited" out.
But he's definitely OUT of the Inquirer and funny enough, AMD isn't as rosy anymore:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1432764/amd-s-graphics-card-selector-malfunction
This further back-ups my theory that he WAS a payed chill by AMD and probably still is, but on his own site now.
I kinda doubt he was a paid shill. Generally, companies don't want people who are complete jackasses doing that kind of thing. Those sort of people get ignored easily and also you can get egg on your face real bad, maybe even a libel lawsuit, if it is revealed they are working for you.
Had he been on ATi's payroll, more likely he would have been a lot more low key, less nVidia hater. He'd publish bad stories about nVidia, but try and do so from a neutral stance. He'd want to make it look as though he was just reporting the news, not that he had an axe to grind.
I personally think he is just a fanboy idiot. For some reason, there are people out there who get religious about hardware. Not only do they love their hardware and believe it to be the One True Way(tm) but they then hate the other guy and think they are evil. You can see people like that on hardforum. They'll just rail on one of the GPU makers, or CPU makers, etc without any real basis.
He was just a fanboy who had managed to make money being a jackass for awhile.
Had he been on ATi's payroll, more likely he would have been a lot more low key, less nVidia hater. He'd publish bad stories about nVidia, but try and do so from a neutral stance. He'd want to make it look as though he was just reporting the news, not that he had an axe to grind.
I personally think he is just a fanboy idiot. For some reason, there are people out there who get religious about hardware. Not only do they love their hardware and believe it to be the One True Way(tm) but they then hate the other guy and think they are evil. You can see people like that on hardforum. They'll just rail on one of the GPU makers, or CPU makers, etc without any real basis.
He was just a fanboy who had managed to make money being a jackass for awhile.
While he's good for a laugh, I'll have to agree I doubt he was paid by AMD/ATI. I don't think AMD is dumb enough to keep that kind of liability on thier payroll.
I also havn't seen confirmation of his firing. I've just seen his new site. Which is also good for a laugh.
Get ignored ? There are people in these forums, that not only post his links, but also support them i.e. the huge amount of stuff he "wrote" concerning the mobile chips failures, which he intentionally included desktop chips, even from the new generation. These people were applauding him for writing those types of articles, even if the idiot only backed them up, with his own writing...
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Not really. There's no need for "low key", just good writing, without bad mouthing as is the idiot Charlie's MO. Case in point, the overclockers.co.uk, which is a known AMD partner. If you don't remember, one of the guys from there, which was considered by many as a "rarely ever wrong" kind of person, wrote the "HD 2900 XT better than 8800 GTX" review, with details on how it was better and even stating that people shouldn't rely on just his review. Which was funny, because he, one of the responsible for the site was clearly recommending the HD 2900 XT over the 8800 GTX. He knew perfectly well how the people that visit the site would react to that i.e. they would take his word over anything, which was what happened, despite obvious criticism from the reasonable people.
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That's true, but I find it very hard that these almost religious types, do it for free.
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Not for a while. He's still at it, even if not for the Inquirer.
bluehaze013
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Last I heard ATI was way ahead of the game and plan to release next gen later this year (Sept/Oct I think it was?), Nvidia was way behind and not releasing until next year at the earliest and instead was going to do a refresh of GT200 around the same time ATI releases next gen.
From what I understand the "New architecture" is something ATI has alot more experience with and thus Nvidia is struggling, I think they hired a new designer even fresh out of college to help out.
Not gonna look for links though your on your own This is just everything I've read over the past couple months take from it what you will.
From what I understand the "New architecture" is something ATI has alot more experience with and thus Nvidia is struggling, I think they hired a new designer even fresh out of college to help out.
Not gonna look for links though your on your own
This is just everything I've read over the past couple months take from it what you will.Last I heard ATI was way ahead of the game and plan to release next gen later this year (Sept/Oct I think it was?), Nvidia was way behind and not releasing until next year at the earliest and instead was going to do a refresh of GT200 around the same time ATI releases next gen.
From what I understand the "New architecture" is something ATI has alot more experience with and thus Nvidia is struggling, I think they hired a new designer even fresh out of college to help out.
Not gonna look for links though your on your own
they were but have the same issue with TSMC as nvidia has, sub 30% yields just are not economically viable. hopefully Nvidia is using the breathing room to catch up
Could be true since G300 haven't taped out yet while AMD already has working DX11 GPUs..
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Have not heard much last few weeks, no hurry for me I just built a whole new rig with GTX 295 and i7 920 so I won't mind not having to upgrade for awhile. Will be nice to be able to save some cash! Plus even with only 1 295 every game already runs smooth as butter
I think the only thing we can say with any kind of certainty for both nVidia and AMD is 'before Q3'10'
Q1 is possible, as is Q4'09. We'll see.
that would be nice but I would not rule out the worst case here, they don't have them until the 32nm process comes online. ATI can afford to be nice here, they are still making money (not much but given the economy its a accomplishment) but Nvidia is bleeding (they can afford to unlike ATI but they REALLY don't want to be bleeding til Q3/10). I think they are the ones that are likely to put a firecracker up TSMC ass here
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I'd rather they release later then eariler because they can get more of kinks out of DX 11 cards. Anyways not like games will support DX 11 right away. Look how long DX 10 and 10.1 have come. Took awhile. So no rush.