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Windows Safer Than Linux

GreNME said:
You would be wrong on both counts. It was written from the ground up, though the parts in development that may seem very close to, say, OS/2 would be because most of the core development team that created it were brought on board by Microsoft to develop the NT operating system into what was eventually (mostly) fully realized with Windows 2000 (prior versions were close but not "all the way there").
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Actually, internally OS/2 and Windows NT were (are) not very similar at all. The only code that they really shared was in the Win16 and OS/2 subsystems. Other than that you are correct in that NT was written from the ground up mostly. However, architecturally it does resemble VMS far more than it does OS/2 or *nix, again largely due to the influence of Dave Cutler . More references:

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?IssueID=97&ArticleID=4494
http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/Windows-NT_is_VMS_re-implemented.html
http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/exec/de/default.asp#DaveCutler
 
The overriding fact is that all non-Windows operating systems enjoy security through obscurity. Every mock-turtleneck wearing, beatnick wannabe in the world that has a grudge against Microsoft secretly (or openly) cheers when viruses and exploits hit the evil empire's platform.

I don't have enough spare time to get emotional about operating systems. I don't really care to defend Windows either. But when push comes to shove and you have thousands upon thousands of client computers, and hundreds upon hundreds of servers to manage, secure and protect, I doubt anyone really relishes the thought of doing it all with open source. Show me the environment that proves otherwise.
 
rcolbert said:
The overriding fact is that all non-Windows operating systems enjoy security through obscurity. Every mock-turtleneck wearing, beatnick wannabe in the world that has a grudge against Microsoft secretly (or openly) cheers when viruses and exploits hit the evil empire's platform.

I don't have enough spare time to get emotional about operating systems. I don't really care to defend Windows either. But when push comes to shove and you have thousands upon thousands of client computers, and hundreds upon hundreds of servers to manage, secure and protect, I doubt anyone really relishes the thought of doing it all with open source. Show me the environment that proves otherwise.
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Very well said. As I have often said, I'm agnostic about the tools I use. Do I have personal preferences? Sure, that's only human. Do I treat it like it's my religion? No, but I do get a lot of amusement from those who do!
 
rcolbert said:
The overriding fact is that all non-Windows operating systems enjoy security through obscurity. Every mock-turtleneck wearing, beatnick wannabe in the world that has a grudge against Microsoft secretly (or openly) cheers when viruses and exploits hit the evil empire's platform.

I don't have enough spare time to get emotional about operating systems. I don't really care to defend Windows either. But when push comes to shove and you have thousands upon thousands of client computers, and hundreds upon hundreds of servers to manage, secure and protect, I doubt anyone really relishes the thought of doing it all with open source. Show me the environment that proves otherwise.
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Yahoo and NTT/Verio have somewhere over 300.000 sites on FreeBSD servers, but AFAIK no desktops. Google has a metric shitload of linux boxes, probably managed by other linux boxes, but who knows what they use on their desktops. (And the actual google software isn't OSS.) Sun most likely only has linux and Solaris desktops and servers, but they're sort of a special case. The university of Oslo uses Solaris or linux servers for everything, and many hundred RHEL workstations for students. I've never seen a windows computer on the campus, but there are probably a number of workstations in the offices. They're a bit too small, too. (Roughly 30.000 students, 4.600 staff, unknown number of serves/workstations/desktops.)
Hmm. Brazil is moving everything, but hasn't come too far yet.

With enough digging, it should be possible to find some good counterexamples, but I'm coming up short.
 
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