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Windows 2000 Pro
- Thread starter Stlr22
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You practically answered your own question. Just based on newer technology, Windows 2000 will obviously work better with that setup (the minimum system requirements go up as you go up with the Windows 2000 family.. professional, server, etc, etc).
IMO, Windows 2000 runs great with that setup (as I had a very similar setup many years back)
edit: sorry, I didn't even answer your question.. the minimum req for ram in windows xp is 256, as windows 2000 is 128, dont quote me (heh)
IMO, Windows 2000 runs great with that setup (as I had a very similar setup many years back)
edit: sorry, I didn't even answer your question.. the minimum req for ram in windows xp is 256, as windows 2000 is 128, dont quote me (heh)
Well I'm debating with some dude who's apparently a big shot computer know it all and say's Win2k is an "insecure memory hogging piece of crap OS".
Is either XP Home and Pro that much more secure then 2K Pro with service Pack 4?
and I really had my doubts about the memory situation...
Is either XP Home and Pro that much more secure then 2K Pro with service Pack 4?
and I really had my doubts about the memory situation...
That debate sounds like an never-ending internet waste of time.
When I was on windows 2000 SP4 with practically the same setup (2000+, 512mb, gf4 4200) windows 2000 ran great for me, but for some reason.. windows xp just seems alot more smooth for me. If you really want to find out for yourself, just try out windows xp. And with a router, anti-virus and sp2, i never have problems with spyware.
When I was on windows 2000 SP4 with practically the same setup (2000+, 512mb, gf4 4200) windows 2000 ran great for me, but for some reason.. windows xp just seems alot more smooth for me. If you really want to find out for yourself, just try out windows xp. And with a router, anti-virus and sp2, i never have problems with spyware.
digitalx0 said:
lol I actually do have XP Pro but prefer Win 2K w/ service pack 4. 2K Pro does seem to respond better IMO.
I'm just wondering if there was some actual fact's* out there regarding Win2K to being an "insecure memory hogging piece of crap OS". Our debate is not about which is better.
I believe XP was built from 2K no? They are based off the same NTFS system and are prone to the same viruses it seems.(blaster)
I just need something factual to bring to the table....
digitalx0 said:
512 makes a bit of difference between the two OS'es. It's just noticeable.
If you turn off all of the desktop "enhancements" in XP it's just as fast. System Properties -> Advanced tab -> Settings button under "Performance" section, then the "Visual Settings" tab. Disable as necessary. Helps out on the desktop a bit.
Stlr22 said:
i've heard a lot of people say "windows 2000" when they really meant "windows me". these are usually the same people that refer to their computer case and contents with the general term "hard drive".
short answer about 2000 versus xp is "not really". longer answer is that the question of "is ___ more/less secure than ___" is a matter more dictated by the machines actual use. xp pro will give you access to IIS and ntfs security permissions like win2k pro, but xp home is still built of the same concepts (just does not allow the user to change permissions, create complex security profiles, etc.).
if you do not plan on running a server farm and regularly keep up with operating system patches, then xp/2000/linux/etc. will be fine for most users. just match the user's needs to the o.s. and have it auto-update with newer patches if the user is a novice.
shhhheeeeeesh....
The short answer is that XP is basically WIN2k with all the eye candy and a few nice extras. In a default setup XP is more of a "memory hog." Performance and security will be determined by the ability of the user in both cases. I would recommend XP for a "set up and forget" user. I have both operating systems running on similar machines, both are rock solid and quick and have been running problem free for YEARS without any major repairs. I prefer my WINXP Pro box, but it is more top heavy than the win2k box.
Remember they are both built on the basically the same NT kernel, whereas win98/ME are definitely lesser beings.
The short answer is that XP is basically WIN2k with all the eye candy and a few nice extras. In a default setup XP is more of a "memory hog." Performance and security will be determined by the ability of the user in both cases. I would recommend XP for a "set up and forget" user. I have both operating systems running on similar machines, both are rock solid and quick and have been running problem free for YEARS without any major repairs. I prefer my WINXP Pro box, but it is more top heavy than the win2k box.
Remember they are both built on the basically the same NT kernel, whereas win98/ME are definitely lesser beings.
Yea, take off those animations windows XP adds, and it feels so much more responsive, no "minmize effects, maximize effects...... no menu fades...."
Anyway, i have been running a windows 2000 Advanced Server on quite a few old computers, and it runs fine for just a small dedicated server.
My old server with windows 2000 advanced server was a P2 350mhz, 20gb hard drive, and 327mb of ram. But of course, this is acting as just a server, not as a personal use desktop. I would be a little cautious about putting a windows XP install on an old computer such as a 350mhz.... but i would'nt expect much diffrence.
As for security, it has already been said. They are about the same...
Hey Stlr22, ask your friend (who is calling win 2000 bad) if he uses Internet Explorer. Then ask him what special changes he made to his browser settings ^_^. I sware, if he does not have Active X disabled for the general internet,,,, i would laugh.
Anyway, i have been running a windows 2000 Advanced Server on quite a few old computers, and it runs fine for just a small dedicated server.
My old server with windows 2000 advanced server was a P2 350mhz, 20gb hard drive, and 327mb of ram. But of course, this is acting as just a server, not as a personal use desktop. I would be a little cautious about putting a windows XP install on an old computer such as a 350mhz.... but i would'nt expect much diffrence.
As for security, it has already been said. They are about the same...
Hey Stlr22, ask your friend (who is calling win 2000 bad) if he uses Internet Explorer. Then ask him what special changes he made to his browser settings ^_^. I sware, if he does not have Active X disabled for the general internet,,,, i would laugh.
That is the major way spyware and viruses are distributed when browsing the internet, with advanced content such as Active X controles.
Firefox does not use Active X, its more of a microsoft thing.
Anyway, in IE, to disable them, open up an IE window, then click the tools menu > then click internet options.
Click the security tab, and make sure the "internet" icon is highlighted. Then click custom level. There you will find many options related to security settings. You can choose anywhere between full content (very unsafe from my experience), to just HTML content basically.
I know now in windows XP with service pack 2, there is a Information Bar that may try and prevent Active X content from being downloaded automatically (if the settings are set to automatically download them)...
I personally have the Active X scripting disabled, it wont download it, it wont download to the desktop, et cetera... If i come to a website that requires advanced content like java script or whatnot, ill eaither open it up in FireFox, or add it to my "trusted sites" list in the security section of IE. (only if i trust the website).
Firefox does not use Active X, its more of a microsoft thing.
Anyway, in IE, to disable them, open up an IE window, then click the tools menu > then click internet options.
Click the security tab, and make sure the "internet" icon is highlighted. Then click custom level. There you will find many options related to security settings. You can choose anywhere between full content (very unsafe from my experience), to just HTML content basically.
I know now in windows XP with service pack 2, there is a Information Bar that may try and prevent Active X content from being downloaded automatically (if the settings are set to automatically download them)...
I personally have the Active X scripting disabled, it wont download it, it wont download to the desktop, et cetera... If i come to a website that requires advanced content like java script or whatnot, ill eaither open it up in FireFox, or add it to my "trusted sites" list in the security section of IE. (only if i trust the website).
You should expect to have a lot of "advanced content" not show up when browsin the internet.
For example, you may have seen those annoying things that popup on the internet, that do not behaive like a normal Window, and usually feature sound and animations... those will not appear (because it would be disabled).
Also, say your browsing a risky website, (porn sites are among these), the sight may have an "active X" applet that is set to automatically install on your computer, and then once installed it will download crap to your desktop, start creating a ton of porn pop up adds....... well if you disable Active X, IE will not download it, and you will be safe from it.
This is how i prevent spyware basically. (and this is the reason Firefox is known for being secure).
On the down side though, when your browsing a website, that might use an Active X program to display some interactive things, .... (such as the little picture of a computer and the slots that are used when configuring a alienware compuer... i don't really know of any other examples at the moment).. it will not be displayed, because it was not downloaded and run (to run an active X program is called initiallizing and scripting).
The end result, is less "advanced contenet" being displayed on some websites... which will make the computer using IE much safer to browse the internet.
And like i said, if a website does use an active X program, and you trust the website, you can always add it to your "trusted sites" list (that is another internet zone, so you can have it set to display everything with no restrictions).
The best way to see for yourself, is to eaither use Firefox to browse the internet, or just disable Active X (downloading, initiallizing, and scripting). And if you decide you don't like it, you can always just change the settings back to the normal defaults.
For example, you may have seen those annoying things that popup on the internet, that do not behaive like a normal Window, and usually feature sound and animations... those will not appear (because it would be disabled).
Also, say your browsing a risky website, (porn sites are among these), the sight may have an "active X" applet that is set to automatically install on your computer, and then once installed it will download crap to your desktop, start creating a ton of porn pop up adds....... well if you disable Active X, IE will not download it, and you will be safe from it.
This is how i prevent spyware basically. (and this is the reason Firefox is known for being secure).
On the down side though, when your browsing a website, that might use an Active X program to display some interactive things, .... (such as the little picture of a computer and the slots that are used when configuring a alienware compuer... i don't really know of any other examples at the moment).. it will not be displayed, because it was not downloaded and run (to run an active X program is called initiallizing and scripting).
The end result, is less "advanced contenet" being displayed on some websites... which will make the computer using IE much safer to browse the internet.
And like i said, if a website does use an active X program, and you trust the website, you can always add it to your "trusted sites" list (that is another internet zone, so you can have it set to display everything with no restrictions).
The best way to see for yourself, is to eaither use Firefox to browse the internet, or just disable Active X (downloading, initiallizing, and scripting). And if you decide you don't like it, you can always just change the settings back to the normal defaults.
Oh, on a side note, i think i should just say this.
There are a few main things that a Windows computer uses when browsing the internet.
First is HTML, this is what the web browser displays... there are no major security problems here.
Then comes JavaScript. This is a programming langauge that is based off of Java, but was intended for the internet, with a lot of advanced features left out to make Javascript safe (it was intended to prevent people from doing real bad things, that otherwise Java could allow them to do). the people who offically made java (sun microsystems) have done a pretty good job with their software, and its been fairly safe, i can think of only one major venerability that was addressed.
Then comes Active X, a microsoft tool that allows a much wider range of things than javascript, some of which can be unsafe. I remember doing a little Active X programming in my Visual Basic class in highschool ^_^. Active X programs are not just for the internet.
Then of course you have other advanced contenet such as shockwave and Flash, among others. Those are more for graphical things, like flash cartoons.
So basically, when you set IE to a very high security setting, it will basically only display HTML. Obviously there are many more Server Side things that can go on, but they do not cause a security risk to you... such as ASP, databases.....
There are a few main things that a Windows computer uses when browsing the internet.
First is HTML, this is what the web browser displays... there are no major security problems here.
Then comes JavaScript. This is a programming langauge that is based off of Java, but was intended for the internet, with a lot of advanced features left out to make Javascript safe (it was intended to prevent people from doing real bad things, that otherwise Java could allow them to do). the people who offically made java (sun microsystems) have done a pretty good job with their software, and its been fairly safe, i can think of only one major venerability that was addressed.
Then comes Active X, a microsoft tool that allows a much wider range of things than javascript, some of which can be unsafe. I remember doing a little Active X programming in my Visual Basic class in highschool ^_^. Active X programs are not just for the internet.
Then of course you have other advanced contenet such as shockwave and Flash, among others. Those are more for graphical things, like flash cartoons.
So basically, when you set IE to a very high security setting, it will basically only display HTML. Obviously there are many more Server Side things that can go on, but they do not cause a security risk to you... such as ASP, databases.....