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Win 7 issue/lag

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Julius

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Hi,

I've been experiencing issues with my PC where it would move very very slowly and sluggish. Most flash games/videos would move very slow and often freeze. Even when just browsing the web a simple right click would take a minute or two to pop up, some times when I right click a on my desktop or anything the menu would not contain any options then one minute later they would come in. I've updated all my drivers and ran a memtest, a hard drive test, cleaned the dust out of my computer the same issues occur.

So today I decided to run it in safemode and see how it works, so far so good. When I play a flash video it does not move slow, I've yet to try to play a game. In regular mode, my CPU usage was at 100%(running dual core) so far in safe mode it's jumping from 0-60% and back down again, randomly.

Any ideas on what this could be?
 
I figured that may be the issue. Hopefully this isn't a virus that would cause me to restore the whole system. I guess it's better run out and buy a $30 software than a brand new system. Anyway to diagnose this issue to test it is a virus for sure?
 
j-sta said:
what process(es) are using up the most CPU?
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Firefox, when firefox is closed even IE goes slow. Oddly if I am running Photoshop or Dreamweaver it would not go slow or as slow.

Also would a virus cause a tad bit of sluggish in SafeMode also? It's not running entirely like it was but as the computer stays on longer in safe mode I have experience tid bits of slow downs. Particular in Firefox I may add.
 
Julius said:
Firefox, when firefox is closed even IE goes slow. Oddly if I am running Photoshop or Dreamweaver it would not go slow or as slow.

Also would a virus cause a tad bit of sluggish in SafeMode also? It's not running entirely like it was but as the computer stays on longer in safe mode I have experience tid bits of slow downs. Particular in Firefox I may add.
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when you close Firefox, does the firefox.exe process continue to run and eat up CPU? or does the process end when you close the browser?

does it happen if you don't use Firefox?
 
j-sta said:
when you close Firefox, does the firefox.exe process continue to run and eat up CPU? or does the process end when you close the browser?

does it happen if you don't use Firefox?
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In normal mode when I'm running Firefox my CPU usage jumps to 100%, depending on the amount of sites and what type of sites I am on. As of now while I'm typing this it's at 9%, this is the only tab open.

When I close it, it shoots back down to the low single digits. Immediately after I loaded up Photoshop and it jumped to 90-100% but I did not experience any slow downs.

My I add, using CoreTemp Core 1 is at 58c and Core 2 is at 60c while editing this post.

(Edit: While going to a popular video streaming website, the CPU usage jumps to 100%, both cores are at max % and the video slows down, after closing that tab it dropped to 3-10%)
 
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Are you running the most recent version of flash? Video drivers? Have you tried disabling any add-ons *except* flash? I would try these things, and some decent anti-malware. And check the event log to see if anything interesting is popping up there.
 
Julius said:
In normal mode when I'm running Firefox my CPU usage jumps to 100%, depending on the amount of sites and what type of sites I am on. As of now while I'm typing this it's at 9%, this is the only tab open.

When I close it, it shoots back down to the low single digits. Immediately after I loaded up Photoshop and it jumped to 90-100% but I did not experience any slow downs.

My I add, using CoreTemp Core 1 is at 58c and Core 2 is at 60c while editing this post.

(Edit: While going to a popular video streaming website, the CPU usage jumps to 100%, both cores are at max % and the video slows down, after closing that tab it dropped to 3-10%)
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so the issue only occurs when Firefox is used?
 
devil22 said:
Are you running the most recent version of flash? Video drivers? Have you tried disabling any add-ons *except* flash? I would try these things, and some decent anti-malware. And check the event log to see if anything interesting is popping up there.
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I've updated shockwave, flash and all video drivers.
 
j-sta said:
so the issue only occurs when Firefox is used?
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Firefox and IE.

Update: I purchase a year worth of ESET and looks like it may have paid off. After a full scan, turns out there were a couple of viruses inside my Java cache folder??? I'm clearing now and will restart. However 47 detected and only 44 clean. I will run the scanner again. Update coming soon.
 
Update: Well I am almost sure that this may be some type of hardware issue. Since finding the viruses inside the Java cache folder, I've deleted them using ESET, ran it twice deleting 47 in total.

I also ran malware software and deleted whatever that was there. After doing that I uninstalled IE, Firefox and Java. After restarting my computer booted up to my CPU usage being at 100%, I figured that it would drop down once the computer started up completely. However it did not and teatimer hogged up most of the CPU, I ended that process and the CPU usage dropped dramatically.

I waited a few minutes then reinstalled Firefox. browsed a few sites that I have the most problems with and the problem still existed. Throughout the whole process of trying to figure this thing out I realized my system fails most when trying to play video over the internet. Sometimes it moves slowly using Win 7 alone.

In conclusion, I'll just purchase a new system :( after a restore.

Thanks all for their help, I really appreciate it.
 
Fire up ProcessExplorer and see what thread is causing whatever process ot max out CPU usage.
 
disable teatimer?

I've never been fond of teatimer myself.
 
Snowknight26 said:
Fire up ProcessExplorer and see what thread is causing whatever process ot max out CPU usage.
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plugin-container.exe uses about 30-40%, whenever that isn't active it's just regular ol system idle using almost 100%

Edit: After googling some recommended to disable Mozilla's crash protection, after doing so I no longer see plugin-container when streaming video but firefox usage alone bumped upinto the 40s
 
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Uhm, before you get a new system, you should realize, if ESET caught 47 pieces of malware, there are probably more that it could not detect (since such AVs are based on signatures, they can only detect malware that the creators of ESET have captured and analyzed.) And ESET might not be able to reverse any intentional or unintentional damage those malware caused to the OS/apps and their configuration. You should reinstall Windows if you keep having severe problems, before you buy a whole new system. Unless you just want a new system, of course..
 
Sounds like a slow CPU, slow GPU, lack of proper chipset drivers, a combination of the three or something entirely different.

Julius said:
Edit: After googling some recommended to disable Mozilla's crash protection, after doing so I no longer see plugin-container when streaming video but firefox usage alone bumped upinto the 40s
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By threads I mean double click on the process (firefox.exe in this case) and go to the threads tab.
 
Julius said:
plugin-container.exe uses about 30-40%, whenever that isn't active it's just regular ol system idle using almost 100%

Edit: After googling some recommended to disable Mozilla's crash protection, after doing so I no longer see plugin-container when streaming video but firefox usage alone bumped upinto the 40s
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More often than not it takes many different aniti malware/virus programs to ferret out the issues on a system. Look back at the link I posted, there are links to free ones which do an outstanding job.
 
Snufykat said:
More often than not it takes many different aniti malware/virus programs to ferret out the issues on a system. Look back at the link I posted, there are links to free ones which do an outstanding job.
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Thanks, I've started backing up the computer now, so I am going to go ahead and restore.

While reading alone I found where someone had the same issue, they key points wore they had the same graphics card and they noted flash 10 caused the issue. Hopefully my video card isn't the issue and a restore works :(
 
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