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Turion apparently dead

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Stoly

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I have an inspiron 1546 with a dead turion apparently.

I have a desktop turion PC. would the cpu work on the 1546 or vice versa? I want to check if its the motherboard or the CPU that's dead.
 
You got some serious life out of it! I believe the die package is different between the desktop and mobile parts, so I'm pretty sure they are not interchangeable.
 
DejaWiz said:
You got some serious life out of it! I believe the die package is different between the desktop and mobile parts, so I'm pretty sure they are not interchangeable.
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AFAIK the socket is the same, what I don't know is if the desktop or laptop support the required voltages or bios.

I'm pretty sure the MB is dead, but AMD cpus are prone to failure from overheating, so I want to be sure if its only the MB or both.
 
The sockets are the same, but the dimensions for height, width, and length are slightly different, iirc. And yes, voltages are a concern, as well. Have you checked eBay or maybe start a WTB thread here?
 
with mobile AMD, even if the socket is the same, it needs to be the same generation. A S1 Chip from G2 will not work in a S1G4 board. Do your research and you'll be good.That being said, I've never seen a dead Turion. You're positive its not the mobo? The 1546 is kind of known for killing boards.
 
I think I have a mobile semprom somewhere. Maybe that will work.
 
Jorona said:
with mobile AMD, even if the socket is the same, it needs to be the same generation. A S1 Chip from G2 will not work in a S1G4 board. Do your research and you'll be good.That being said, I've never seen a dead Turion. You're positive its not the mobo? The 1546 is kind of known for killing boards.
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I know its the mobo, but since it died from overheating I want to be sure its not the cpu also.
In my experience AMD cpus are more prone to failure from overheating than intel. I have a couple of keychains featuring dead mobile semprons.

the laptop is not mine so I have to tell my friend if its worth repairing it. The mobo alone goes for like 100-150 bucks.
 
Stoly said:
In my experience AMD cpus are more prone to failure from overheating than intel. I have a couple of keychains featuring dead mobile semprons.
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yea that doesn't sound like a gross oversimplification at all! :rolleyes:

I've never had an AMD CPU cook itself that wasn't my fault. sounds like you've been buying some cheap-ass laptops or you're doing something wrong
 
That model Dell is still pretty new, so how did it overheat so quickly or what makes you think the mobo is bad? you should be able to access the CPU and heatsink from the bottom of the laptop very easy, so clean that out? Was the heatsink totally clogged or something?

Personally I would not spend 100 or 200 bucks for a used motherboard from ebay or somewhere with no warranty and questionable reliability. Then add in the cost of a new CPU too if both the CPU and motherboard are bad, plus cost of labor to replace the motherboard, you are at 300 to 500 bucks.

You can get even a basic laptop for 300 to 400 that will be new with a warranty and will have a dual core, 4gb DDR3 memory, that is probably better than that laptop anyway.
 
Activate: AMD said:
yea that doesn't sound like a gross oversimplification at all! :rolleyes:

I've never had an AMD CPU cook itself that wasn't my fault. sounds like you've been buying some cheap-ass laptops or you're doing something wrong
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Good for you. I have seen quite a few from customers, mostly laptops.

As I said before the laptop died for overheating. the exhaust vent was dirty.
I removed what I thought was some kind of cloth filter but it was lint. It was very thick. The fan is not as dirty and seems to spin.

Anyway the turion did boot on the desktop pc.

New mobo it is.
 
You are dealing with the "value" market customer. Read: cheap assed folks that will lay the laptop on sand, on their bed, and even let their dog rub fur all over the vents.

When you deal with the Wal-Mart customer, NEVER blame failures on computing equipment. Especially tagging a brand.

What you should have said is that your cheap assed customers are negligent, and cooking any cpu they get.

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This can be viewed as more opportunities for business than higher end customers usually provide.
 
I wouldnt worry about the CPU. Turions can be picked up for pennies on Ebay.

I got a 2GHz dual core Turion for $20 a couple of years ago. Made a nice upgrade in the Inspiron 1501 that only had a single core 2GHz Turion to start with.
 
Solomutt said:
You are dealing with the "value" market customer. Read: cheap assed folks that will lay the laptop on sand, on their bed, and even let their dog rub fur all over the vents.

When you deal with the Wal-Mart customer, NEVER blame failures on computing equipment. Especially tagging a brand.

What you should have said is that your cheap assed customers are negligent, and cooking any cpu they get.

Edit:
This can be viewed as more opportunities for business than higher end customers usually provide.
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Thing is, those same customers also buy intel based laptops. I've been repairing since late last century (always wanted to say that :p) and I have yet to see my first dead intel cpu.

I don't blame AMD, and I'll always recommend an AMD cpu for a budget laptop. But IME Intel has better thermal protection.
 
drdoug99 said:
That model Dell is still pretty new, so how did it overheat so quickly or what makes you think the mobo is bad? you should be able to access the CPU and heatsink from the bottom of the laptop very easy, so clean that out? Was the heatsink totally clogged or something?

Personally I would not spend 100 or 200 bucks for a used motherboard from ebay or somewhere with no warranty and questionable reliability. Then add in the cost of a new CPU too if both the CPU and motherboard are bad, plus cost of labor to replace the motherboard, you are at 300 to 500 bucks.

You can get even a basic laptop for 300 to 400 that will be new with a warranty and will have a dual core, 4gb DDR3 memory, that is probably better than that laptop anyway.
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lol you answered your first question in your post :D cough "dell" cough.. i've honestly never had a dell survive more than 2 years before the motherboards cooked themselves.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
lol you answered your first question in your post :D cough "dell" cough.. i've honestly never had a dell survive more than 2 years before the motherboards cooked themselves.
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You must have only ever used a sx/gx 260-280 desktop and who knows what laptop.

We still have old dell latitude d610 laptops here that have never had anything replaced.

Most of the D620s and D630s we still have are also working fine.

Of course they are being replaced, not because they are faulty, but because they are too stupid slow.
 
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