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Teamkillers

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denaps

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WARNING: THIS IS A RANT

I am playing the BF2 demo. All off the sudden 11/16 people on my team have less than -15 points while the other team is dominating. Rather than bitch about a bunch of TK'ers, I leave the server, because I actually would like to play the game for real.

So I leave, connect to another 32-player server. I join, and two people on my new team have below -100 and 5 people are below -60. Almost every person on the team is TK'ing. Same for the other team.

This has me worried. I try one more server and luckily catch it at the beginning of a round. For the first 1 second, everything is normal. after that I am murdered by a teammate who spawns next to me. This happens 3 times in a row. I switch to the other team - some team of assholes is going around mowing people down with tanks and buggys - except not the enemy. You get the idea.

Three different servers. All the same shit. I DO NOT understand why if you want to kill someone so bad, just kill the other FUCKING TEAM. TK'ers remind me of hunters who put deer in a crate, stick the gun through the door, and blow the fucking thing to shreds because they know it can't run. What a bunch of pussies. This game is fucked before it even comes out.

Anyone know of a server where I don't have to worry about this kind of shit?
 
Yeah sorry that was my friend, I will go beat him up for you.

He was like "You gotta get BF2 its so great"
Me "Do you suck at that game too? Steal the jets form the good people and such?"
Him "Yeah I TKed 5 people in one round hahahahaha"

Hopefully when the game gets released you can find a good server with good admins, I havent played the demo yet because of the POS comp in my sig, but when I do play hopefully servers arnt filled with that BS.
 
it's really disheartening because the game has so much potential. can admins kick people in real time if they are paying attention? also it seems like FAR too many votes are needed to kick someone if they are being a jerk. maybe that's just to protect accidental TK'ers or something, I don't know. I do know that someone with -57 points should be kicked with 2 votes - no questions asked.
 
The teamkilling code is horrible as you can see. If you even touch a teammate he is dead and he can punish you in a blink of an eye. Hope it gets worked out in the full version.
 
denaps said:
EDIT... jesus christ it was you shakezilla i remember your name from 10 minutes ago when I quit? WTF man?! you (or your friend) killed me like 5 or 6 times. is that fun?
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Nope sorry there a lot of inpersonators of Shakezilla(Aqua Teen Hunger Force is pretty popular) but I only play CS 1.6 right now so not me :)
 
LOL...OK i will re-edit...sorry about that. There definitely was a TK'ing shakezilla on that last server though...
 
Its a demo version, people are gonna go out there and TK or just screw around. Dont get to worked up about it.
 
I usually play on the Global Army server. Only had one instance of a TKer and he was kicked and banned quickly. definately a fun game if your side believes in "teamwork".
 
wouldnt it make a shitload of sense to put code into a game that allows TK'ing that if your score is below say, -10 or -15 that your auto kicked and if your kicked for having a neg score more than 4 times your auto banned.. i guess that would be too smart :rolleyes:
 
Techx said:
wouldnt it make a shitload of sense to put code into a game that allows TK'ing that if your score is below say, -10 or -15 that your auto kicked and if your kicked for having a neg score more than 4 times your auto banned.. i guess that would be too smart :rolleyes:
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Not really, me and my CS clan owned a server and sometimes it was fun to just TK each other and go crazy(even if there was other people not from our clan in there) I mean its our server we will do what we want in there. But there should be an admin option for that so when the adins away the TKers dont get to play. :p
 
Just find servers that have Friendly Fire set to 0. That's what I did, and I'm loving the server I've been on the last 2 nights. It's called "La Cantina".

It must have been newb night on it last night, because I took and Abrahams and just wreaked havoc endlessly.
 
Shakezilla said:
Yeah sorry that was my friend, I will go beat him up for you.

He was like "You gotta get BF2 its so great"
Me "Do you suck at that game too? Steal the jets form the good people and such?"
Him "Yeah I TKed 5 people in one round hahahahaha"

Hopefully when the game gets released you can find a good server with good admins, I havent played the demo yet because of the POS comp in my sig, but when I do play hopefully servers arnt filled with that BS.
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LOL, sounds like some people i know.. :D
 
I love to tk in every game. Especially in CSS. I love shooting people till they tk you and then you slay them next round.
 
I think TKing is funny as hell sometimes. I personally don't TK , and it sucks when someone does it over and over again at spawn or something, but one time I was watching the CPL HLTV broadcast and this dude tk'd his teamate while he was defusing the bomb , and then defused it himself. Funny shit indeed. I have a bad habit of plunking a round into my teamates head as kind of a non-homosexual pat on the ass like a football player if my team won the round. If its all in good fun and not overdone its okay with me. But cheating is never ever okay in online multiplayer, those cheaters really fuck me in the goat ass.
 
Don't know why you are having such a hard time finding servers. I do not have this problem at all. With over 2000 Demo servers to choose from I have yet to enter 1 where TKing is the focus. & if you think your a skilled player who wants to beat skilled players then I would stay away from the FF=Off servers. When the full game is released there will be Ranked servers. Not sure yet exactly what "Ranked" means yet to EA but I did spend the day yesterday arguing it with a lot of people on planet BF2 forums. You can read the news post that EA put up about Ranked servers. From there words its supposed to be heavily admined to filter out problem players. Anyway. Here is the link. http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=communityupdate_060305
 
I was playing Singleplayer BF2 last night and I hopped into the enemy VW Bus sort of thing, and my damn computer team mate TKed me! And his response after blowing my shit up, "Sorry Man" I was thinking "Yeah no problem, let me just get my brains off the sidewalk and I'll be on the way."

The problem with banning people who have negative scores is that it would have to be done with people who TKed thier way to a negative score. I've played a 16 player game of HALO2 rockets on a small map and there were 3 people who were in the negative at the end of the game.
 
Funny story, I was landing the blackhawk back on the carrier are dropping people off. Then some idiot in the cobra starts taking off and plows right into me when he can clearly see im landing. I get 2 teamkills (they don't) and -10 score.
 
I know what you mean about the TKers. I've seen jackasses hop in the CIWS on the carrier and just start levelling the aircraft on deck, and the people. Bastards.

That aside, I was having a grand old time on the Phonebot server last night. Had hooked up with a Zulu (AH-1Z) pilot who was pretty damn good, ProfessorNutButter, and we were kicking ass.

Then the most amazing thing happened, the thing that decided the purchase of the game for me. He was SHOT AND KILLED IN HIS SEAT IN THE HELO! I'd never seen that happen before. And the damn thing just started auto-rotating. I didn't know what happened - he sent a team message to tell me. So I switched to the pilot seat, flew back to the carrier, waited for him to respawn, and we left again. But then I had to leave a few minutes later.
 
TKing if funny as hell at times with the right people. Last night I "accidently" shot one of my guys leaving the enemies aircraft carrier in THEIR PT boat. Well how the fuck was I supposed to know? He went into a huge rage fit that made me cry I laughed so much.
 
My theory is that people who do that shit have parents who didn't pay enough attention to them when they were kids. For most of the people who do that, this means, their parents don't pay enough attention to them now. So, instead of attempting to get attention in real life, they just act like dicks to everybody just trying to have a good time online as a result of the anonymity the internet affords them, and in most cases get the attention they want.

Ever seen what people who don't elicit a response from their stupidity do? I mean, if they just go around the whole map TKing their whole team, and nobody says OMFG NOOB U SUCK or anything like that...they just shut the fuck up, and leave with their tail between their legs because they're bored. I can say, with complete honesty, that I wouldn't mind if people like that were systematically "eliminated."
 
finalgt said:
My theory is that people who do that shit have parents who didn't pay enough attention to them when they were kids. For most of the people who do that, this means, their parents don't pay enough attention to them now. So, instead of attempting to get attention in real life, they just act like dicks to everybody just trying to have a good time online as a result of the anonymity the internet affords them, and in most cases get the attention they want.

Ever seen what people who don't elicit a response from their stupidity do? I mean, if they just go around the whole map TKing their whole team, and nobody says OMFG NOOB U SUCK or anything like that...they just shut the fuck up, and leave with their tail between their legs because they're bored. I can say, with complete honesty, that I wouldn't mind if people like that were systematically "eliminated."
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God I love this hobby. :rolleyes:
 
In most public online FPSs there should be NO SUCH THING as friendly fire. There are just far too many tards out there to run a pub server with FF on, simple as that. I understand FF being on if you want to have a clan match or tournament.

In the case of BF2 I think that arty and airstrikes should cause FF kills at all times. Otherwise, on a pub server, NO FF.
 
I know there are a lot of intentional TKers, but there's also a bug I read about and have since seen myself in a lot of games where one of your own teamates will turn up red. I also saw one of the opposing team con as blue last night.
 
LuckyStrike said:
In most public online FPSs there should be NO SUCH THING as friendly fire. There are just far too many tards out there to run a pub server with FF on, simple as that. I understand FF being on if you want to have a clan match or tournament.

In the case of BF2 I think that arty and airstrikes should cause FF kills at all times. Otherwise, on a pub server, NO FF.
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QFT. In most of the FPS I play (usually Enemy Territory - I play that ALOT :D ) a vast amount of servers have done the miraculous thing of turning FF OFF :eek: Very rarely do I stumble across a server with FF enabled, and that is usually a clan server with public pratice.
 
LuckyStrike said:
In most public online FPSs there should be NO SUCH THING as friendly fire. There are just far too many tards out there to run a pub server with FF on, simple as that. I understand FF being on if you want to have a clan match or tournament.

In the case of BF2 I think that arty and airstrikes should cause FF kills at all times. Otherwise, on a pub server, NO FF.
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I've been playing solely on the EADemoUK servers since the Demo release and it's been fine. I've only seen ONE SINGLE instance of someone deliberately team killing, and I've been playing alot over the last few days.


The much BIGGER ISSUE with regards to team killing is the fucking accidental ones.


If you're in a tank and start rolling, even as slow as you possibly can, anyone on your team touching even just the side of the tank will be instantly flattened and you'll get a team kill. I actually got kicked only today, 'cos some muppet in my squad kept leaping out of my vehicle and getting accidently run over. It's truly pathetic. Definitely something they need to fix.
 
LuckyStrike said:
In most public online FPSs there should be NO SUCH THING as friendly fire. There are just far too many tards out there to run a pub server with FF on, simple as that. I understand FF being on if you want to have a clan match or tournament.

In the case of BF2 I think that arty and airstrikes should cause FF kills at all times. Otherwise, on a pub server, NO FF.
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So wait.. instead of getting killed my teammate simply pushes me off the carrier with his jet?

The problem lies not in how many votes are needed... it's that NO ONE VOTES! I am sick of seeing people not vote. Geez it takes a millisecond to hit the vote yes button.
 
wow lots of responses on this topic today. thanks for the feedback. people have a lot of good ideas but i guess we'll see if they implement anything to control it. that part about the vehicle TK's is so true. once i was trying to land the american transporter chopper (the big one) to pick people up. so here i am landing on the deck and these idiots are waiting UNDER the fucking chopper. needless to say two of them died and I got punished for it. WHY IS THIS MY PROBLEM?!? Who waits UNDER a god damn helicopter?
 
FF is just too much of a problem on pub servers. And it's not only the intentional type that causes the most grief initaly. It's the mistaken shot or the guy who runs into the place where you just threw a nade. Instead of being cool about it, many times the victium flies off the handle and lets loose a torrent of insults. Then the hunt for revenge and counter-revenge begins... :rolleyes:

Pub server admins...just leave it off please.
 
I agree, if you want realism, go join the military. Otherwise, leave FF off on the damn servers.
 
d34dly said:
The problem lies not in how many votes are needed... it's that NO ONE VOTES! I am sick of seeing people not vote. Geez it takes a millisecond to hit the vote yes button.
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The voting system fails because it assumes everyone will vote when in reality they don't.

A better system would be to, by default, have voting disabled for the client. That way, only people who really care about it will go and enable it and thus a vote cast will be greeted with full votes.


See?! solved it in a few mins. Why couldn't Dice think of this?
 
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