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Question about PS3 Compatibility

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wtburnette

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I'm thinking of getting either a Samsung LNT5271F 52" LCD or a Samsung HLT5087S 50" LED DLP, but wasn't sure if they would be compatible with a PS3. I'm getting the PS3 for the BluRay playback more then anything, though I'll probably play the occasional game on it as well. If anyone has experience with either of these HDTV's, your feedback would be appreciated... :D
 
Shut up with the google already. Technically we could all google EVERYTHING and there would be no need for forums anywhere. If you don't wanna contribute to a thread move on to the next one.

If either of those tvs have 1080p then I'd say yes. To take advantage of Bluray you need (or should want) a 1080p tv.
 
71f is one of the best LCDs money can buy right now, and yes it's 1080p.
 
I have the HLT5087S 50" samsung dlp and I love it. I mainly play fighting games and have noticed no lag. Even friends who are in the competitive scene tell me they cant feel any lag on the TV.

The picture quality is excellent, but I think the TV is a bit too bright (easily adjusted).

I would look this TV up on that avsforum website, there is a huge thread going on about the TV. I bought my set from amazon.com for $1,424 shipped (took 5 days to get here).
 
qbert3 said:
I have the HLT5087S 50" samsung dlp and I love it. I mainly play fighting games and have noticed no lag. Even friends who are in the competitive scene tell me they cant feel any lag on the TV.

The picture quality is excellent, but I think the TV is a bit too bright (easily adjusted).

I would look this TV up on that avsforum website, there is a huge thread going on about the TV. I bought my set from amazon.com for $1,424 shipped (took 5 days to get here).
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So you use it with a PS3? Yes BTW, both of these TV's are capable of 1080p. I'd love to get the 71f as it's a gorgeous TV, but it's also more then double the price of the HLT5087S. :(
 
Technically the PS3 is compatible with any TV so do you mean does it look nice on either of those? I am sure it does and since they do 1080p Blu-ray movies should look great (games will look good too)!
 
Sunkist said:
Technically the PS3 is compatible with any TV so do you mean does it look nice on either of those? I am sure it does and since they do 1080p Blu-ray movies should look great (games will look good too)!
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I'd heard there were certain TV's that the HDMI signal wasn't compatible with the PS3. It's been a while since I've heard of this issue, so those bugs might have been ironed out, but I thought I'd double check.
 
Could be the 720i issue you're thinking of? With TVs that only support 720i and the PS3 not outputting to that and people getting screwed by games that don't support other resolutions?

that's the only issue I've heard about with PS3 and HD tvs.
 
Mok said:
Could be the 720i issue you're thinking of? With TVs that only support 720i and the PS3 not outputting to that and people getting screwed by games that don't support other resolutions?

that's the only issue I've heard about with PS3 and HD tvs.
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720p. There is no 720i standard.

The PS3 has no hardware scaler. Hence, if your TV does not support an input that it wants to use, it will default to 480p. This was primarily an issue with certain older HDTV's that only supported 1080i, but not 720p: They used an analog converter. Any game designed for 720p would drop to 480 and look like poo.
 
wtburnette said:
I'd heard there were certain TV's that the HDMI signal wasn't compatible with the PS3. It's been a while since I've heard of this issue, so those bugs might have been ironed out, but I thought I'd double check.
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I know Domingo has the 61" 87 series Samsung LED DLP , and I have the 40" 71 series. I haven't heard or experienced any issues with my 71 series at least. Perhaps he could chime in later.
 
I appreciate the comments all. Like I said, I know I'd read reports when the PS3 first came out saying that when using certain HDTV's, all they got was a black screen. It was said to be due to an incompatibility in the HDMI signal between the two devices. I haven't heard of the issue for quite a while, so I figured any HDTV purchased nowadays would probably not have any problems, but I thought I'd ask... ;)

Anyway, due to price considerations, I'll almost definitely be getting the 50" LED DLP. It doesn't look as nice as the 52" LCD, but it's less then half the price, so I can get the new TV, a PS3, a new entertainment center to fit the TV and a blu ray remote for the PS3, all for around the same price as the LCD TV by itself.
 
lopoetve said:
720p. There is no 720i standard.

The PS3 has no hardware scaler. Hence, if your TV does not support an input that it wants to use, it will default to 480p. This was primarily an issue with certain older HDTV's that only supported 1080i, but not 720p: They used an analog converter. Any game designed for 720p would drop to 480 and look like poo.
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Being someone who has an old set like that, what titles are affected? Is this still an issue?

I just got a new PS3.
 
wtburnette said:
I appreciate the comments all. Like I said, I know I'd read reports when the PS3 first came out saying that when using certain HDTV's, all they got was a black screen. It was said to be due to an incompatibility in the HDMI signal between the two devices. I haven't heard of the issue for quite a while, so I figured any HDTV purchased nowadays would probably not have any problems, but I thought I'd ask... ;)
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No one has mentioned this so I guess I will. The PS3 requires HDCP compliance in order to output high definition content. I found this out the hard way when trying to plug my PS3 into an older LCD monitor without HDCP (it provided a good excuse to upgrade :)). Any reasonably new HDTV should do HDCP, but it doesn't hurt to make sure before you get out the plastic.
 
I believe there was a "handshaking" issue with the ps3 when it came to the hdmi. It didn't support the older hdmi revision or something even though 1.3 is supposed to be backwards compatible with all the other versions. It was a sony issue though, which was probably fixed with a patch.
 
aramis said:
Being someone who has an old set like that, what titles are affected? Is this still an issue?

I just got a new PS3.
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Yes, it's still an issue, and always will be. Any title that is 720p is affected, you'll have to look at the back of the game to tell. If you have one like that, honestly, it's upgrade time- this is something that cannot be fixed.

wtburnette said:
I appreciate the comments all. Like I said, I know I'd read reports when the PS3 first came out saying that when using certain HDTV's, all they got was a black screen. It was said to be due to an incompatibility in the HDMI signal between the two devices. I haven't heard of the issue for quite a while, so I figured any HDTV purchased nowadays would probably not have any problems, but I thought I'd ask... ;)

Anyway, due to price considerations, I'll almost definitely be getting the 50" LED DLP. It doesn't look as nice as the 52" LCD, but it's less then half the price, so I can get the new TV, a PS3, a new entertainment center to fit the TV and a blu ray remote for the PS3, all for around the same price as the LCD TV by itself.
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That was the handshake issue. Unplug and replug the HDMI cable to fix.

ilikecake said:
No one has mentioned this so I guess I will. The PS3 requires HDCP compliance in order to output high definition content. I found this out the hard way when trying to plug my PS3 into an older LCD monitor without HDCP (it provided a good excuse to upgrade :)). Any reasonably new HDTV should do HDCP, but it doesn't hurt to make sure before you get out the plastic.
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Not entirely true - HDCP is not turned on for blu-ray or anything else yet except downloaded content. I ran it for years on a non-HDCP compliant set and it was at full resolution. Either way though - any modern tv with HDMI should be compliant. :D
 
lopoetve said:
Not entirely true - HDCP is not turned on for blu-ray or anything else yet except downloaded content. I ran it for years on a non-HDCP compliant set and it was at full resolution. Either way though - any modern tv with HDMI should be compliant. :D
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Well, I do know that a LCD monitor with a DVI port must have the DVI port HDCP compliant to get the PS3 to work on it. I had a 22" Widescreen LCD monitor with a HDMI->DVI cable that the PS3 would not display on. Then, I came into possession of a 22" Widescreen LCD monitor that had a DVI port, but was labeled HDCP compliant, and viola, gaming in 1080p.

Needless to say, I offered a switch with the person who had the HDCP compliant monitor, and she agreed. So, I am loving life in HD gaming now. :)

As for the 720p issue, there is a website somewhere that is a "users group" for complaining about this. They also have a list of all the games that are affected. I came across it while I was working out the issues with my old 22" LCD not working with the PS3, but then deleted the bookmarks when I made the swap for one that worked.
 
Mok said:
Well, I do know that a LCD monitor with a DVI port must have the DVI port HDCP compliant to get the PS3 to work on it. I had a 22" Widescreen LCD monitor with a HDMI->DVI cable that the PS3 would not display on. Then, I came into possession of a 22" Widescreen LCD monitor that had a DVI port, but was labeled HDCP compliant, and viola, gaming in 1080p.

Needless to say, I offered a switch with the person who had the HDCP compliant monitor, and she agreed. So, I am loving life in HD gaming now. :)

As for the 720p issue, there is a website somewhere that is a "users group" for complaining about this. They also have a list of all the games that are affected. I came across it while I was working out the issues with my old 22" LCD not working with the PS3, but then deleted the bookmarks when I made the swap for one that worked.
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Well now, I'll admit ignorance. I didn't know it was possible to have a DVI port be HDCP compliant. I'm pretty sure my old one wasn't, but I'll have to double check that.
 
Yeah, me either. I originally bought the first 22" to use as a PC monitor, then I had the revelation that I'd never build a new PC to actually USE it at its native rez with new games, so I thought long and hard and bought a PS3.

The reviews of the monitor on Newegg there were a couple that said it'd work with the PS3, so I went to MonoPrice and bought a HDMI -> DVI cable for a few bucks. And nothing. When our secretary bought a new PC and it came with a 22" LCD and had a DVI port that was HDCP enabled, I thought I'd give that a shot, and viola. PS3 in 1080p (although annoying because the monitor displays a blue error window about not-native rez or whatever, but it goes away :) ).

So, in looking into it, HDCP is actually the "content protection" (DRM) for the signal, and can be implemented on any "digital" stream, which is why you can have DVI ports with it enabled. Well, at least that is how I've read into it anyway.
 
Mok said:
Yeah, me either. I originally bought the first 22" to use as a PC monitor, then I had the revelation that I'd never build a new PC to actually USE it at its native rez with new games, so I thought long and hard and bought a PS3.

The reviews of the monitor on Newegg there were a couple that said it'd work with the PS3, so I went to MonoPrice and bought a HDMI -> DVI cable for a few bucks. And nothing. When our secretary bought a new PC and it came with a 22" LCD and had a DVI port that was HDCP enabled, I thought I'd give that a shot, and viola. PS3 in 1080p (although annoying because the monitor displays a blue error window about not-native rez or whatever, but it goes away :) ).

So, in looking into it, HDCP is actually the "content protection" (DRM) for the signal, and can be implemented on any "digital" stream, which is why you can have DVI ports with it enabled. Well, at least that is how I've read into it anyway.
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Interesting. you sure it wasn't that the first monitor didn't have a scaler to deal with a res higher than its native?
 
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