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power switch question...

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snoopy

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Ive searched the forums for this and havent found anything.


this is my case. I wanted something really bland and plain so its very moddable :D. anyway.


how could i move the power switch. i KNOW it can be done because Ive seen it before. Im probably going to go with a military switch too. I have no backround in electronics so explanations would be great. thanks!
 
do you wnat to move it or replace it.
if you want to movie it, there has to be some way to take it out, prolly from the inside, then just put it warever you want.
if you want to raplace it any momentary switch should work
 
heh i wanna do both...its in an inconvenient spot for front intakes, and its just a skinny bar...so i wanna move it and replace it with a better switch
 
i think that i have it figured out...

just changin the wires :D...but knowing me, Im completely wrong.
 
Computers don't use switches to turn on anymore. They haven't since the days of the AT standard. Now they are turned on by a short pulse of electricity from a button. I'm sure with some circuitry you could use a switch to send that pulse or buy one that comes with circuitry made to turn on a computer. Replacing it with another kind of button or a non toggling switch would be much easier.
 
Exactly. All you would need to do are take the switch wires running from your mobo and connect them to that new switch.
 
ok thank you so very much :D...I wouldve gone with the toggle switch if it hadnt been for you.







time to get mr dremel out :cool:
 
ah yea...i was looking for something blue though so itd match the rest...i may paint those though...
 
I totally removed both my power switch AND reset button so you can't turn the computer off or reset it from outside of teh case :p

I cut the front open, covered it with mesh and put a 80mm front intake leaving nowhere to put the buttons

Luckily I have a Lanparty with the reset button and power on the mobo itself....so i have to open the case to turn the comp back on or reset it PITA but its alright for now since i ususally leave the comp on to burn the Arctic Silver in properly.

This is just an in progress mod though, im still trying to decide where I want to put the buttons and waiting to get the blue LEDs for the power.

*sigh* modding is such hard work
 
but worth it :D...

now I have another dillemma. I took the front cover off of my case, and to my power and reset buttons, there's only two wires to each. on the power, its a green and a black. Which is which. Im assuming black is usually ground, but who knows.I can post pictures if needed.


*edit* HEY thats what im doing to my case too. Im cutting out the front and putting mesh in so you see my cool 80mm blue led fans :cool: Im either putting the power/reset switches in the bottom 5.25 or an area just below the 3.5
 
thanks thanks that cleared up a few things... anyone have an answer about my wiring problem :D
 
i would look at conector end that that plugs into the mobo there uselly marked + -. if not try black as ground. remember you just conecting a small circuit on your set up it just wont work if its backwards :D
 
theres a little arrow on the part that goes into the array...im guessing thats the power and the other is ground?


heh yea...lets just hope if i mess up the soldering iron likes me.
 
snoopy said:
but worth it :D...

now I have another dillemma. I took the front cover off of my case, and to my power and reset buttons, there's only two wires to each. on the power, its a green and a black. Which is which. Im assuming black is usually ground, but who knows.I can post pictures if needed.


*edit* HEY thats what im doing to my case too. Im cutting out the front and putting mesh in so you see my cool 80mm blue led fans :cool: Im either putting the power/reset switches in the bottom 5.25 or an area just below the 3.5
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Yeah its pretty cool looking, my intake fan is clear though so through the mesh all you see is the UV light and the glow from all the yellow sleeving and the mobo glowing, its pretty cool cause the mesh I used is like fabric kinda mesh that i double layered. So it kinda blocks enough of the light to make it not clear to see in but you still see the light coming through a little, and it works as a fan filter too!

Since I had so much mesh left over i put a layer on the bottom inside of the case and on the top which is kidna cool too cause the PSU fan and top exhaust fan are cut open at the top and you see the black mesh up there too...

i might have pics around here somewhere but im waiting to take the reeeal pics, be on the lookout for those...."THEY ARE GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZE THE MODDING INDUSTRY"
:cool:
 
netcoord said:
"What happens when I push the on button in for five seconds?"
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I dunno about yours, but most computers will shut down or restart if you hold the power button down. So that's definitely not the desired effect. When you press the power button, it completes a circuit from the PSU; that circuit signals to the mobo that it's time to do it's thing. In the same way, holding the button down and maintaining that circuit signals the motherboard to restart. So anything that completes a circuit temporarily will work.

Momentary = on when pressed, off when released. Keyboard keys are momentary.
SPST = on when switched, remain on until switched again. Light switches are SPST. You'd have to turn it on then off before you restart to use this as a power switch.

If you really want to get creative, car ignition systems are also momentary. :D
 
netcoord said:
your not hardwiring it to mobo are you? it should be going to a pin header.
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yea its going to the pin in the array...ill basically just be changing the switch at the end of the wires.
 
Master Ninja said:
You'd have to turn it on then off before you restart to use this as a power switch.
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there is a way to get around this but it isnt straight foward. it involves relays, capacitors and diodes... if you want to do it let me know and i will dig up the diagram
 
im probably going to go with a spring switch...but if you want to enlighten me go ahead. i may change my mind.
 
found it. they arent quite schematics, more like radioshachmatics... ;)

there are 2 versions. the first allows you to keep the switch on while you are using the computer, but to power down you have to switch it off and back on agein.
mom1.JPG


i thought that this was stupid, so i came up with a second circut that turns teh comp on when you flip the switch up and turns the comp off when you flip it down:
mom2.JPG


if you had a SPDT switch it would simplyfy things greatly, but this was working under the constriction of a single SPST toggle.
 
Master Ninja said:
Momentary = on when pressed, off when released. Keyboard keys are momentary.
SPST = on when switched, remain on until switched again. Light switches are SPST. You'd have to turn it on then off before you restart to use this as a power switch.

If you really want to get creative, car ignition systems are also momentary. :D
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Yes and no. SPST refers to the Single Pole Single Throw design of the switch. You can get these in both momentary and "standard" types. The "poles" basically is like have several switches that move together, but are electrically isolated from each other. For example, a double pole switch is like having two single pole switches, but activated by a single toggle/rocker/button. Throw means the number of options or positions for a switch, not counting an "off" position. A simple on/off switch is a single throw. A switch that can go both up and down is a double throw switch.
You can easily find SPST switches in both momentary and standard configurations. Also, a car ignition is technically a standard switch, but the starter part of the switch is a momentary.

 
Master Ninja said:
I dunno about yours, but most computers will shut down or restart if you hold the power button down. So that's definitely not the desired effect. When you press the power button, it completes a circuit from the PSU; that circuit signals to the mobo that it's time to do it's thing. In the same way, holding the button down and maintaining that circuit signals the motherboard to restart. So anything that completes a circuit temporarily will work.

Momentary = on when pressed, off when released. Keyboard keys are momentary.
SPST = on when switched, remain on until switched again. Light switches are SPST. You'd have to turn it on then off before you restart to use this as a power switch.

If you really want to get creative, car ignition systems are also momentary. :D
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No Really!!! :eek: Your kidding right?! :eek: That was what i was saying. So inorder to use the military switch you need to flick it on and right back off. the way i said it was refering to if hey just put it in the on position. ;)
 
theshadow27 said:
found it. they arent quite schematics, more like radioshachmatics... ;)

there are 2 versions. the first allows you to keep the switch on while you are using the computer, but to power down you have to switch it off and back on agein.
mom1.JPG


i thought that this was stupid, so i came up with a second circut that turns teh comp on when you flip the switch up and turns the comp off when you flip it down:
mom2.JPG


if you had a SPDT switch it would simplyfy things greatly, but this was working under the constriction of a single SPST toggle.
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that made me feel like i have an IQ of about 37...so Im probably going to go with the spring switch instead. thanks for the diagrams, I may figure it out before I do the mod.
 
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