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Please, oh great minds, Please Help!

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netdale

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Alright, so this is going to sound crazy......but I've been just pulling my hair out.....and thus I finally turn to all-knowing wisdom of HF.

I'm a freshman at college where we have an ISA Proxy based network for all outbound traffic. I do minor website design, web hosting, and serious email........and here is where the problem starts. I have many options but none seem workable or satisfying, so I'm going to lay them all out and get opinions. FTP and POP being most important, SSH and SMTP coming in at a close 2nd. FTP will NOT work behind the network unless I use SOCKS4 which my FTP client will not support (Webdrive, the best FTP client......check it out). Anyways, email is the most important, which WONT work, regardless of SOCKS/HTTP. I have access to a local dial-up account which could work however when I connect to the dialup account the computer takes that connection as its primary one, but since everything else is configured to use a proxy serious problems result. I've searched and searched and XP just doesnt like figuring out itself (the problem is XP cannot handle a DUN and LAN connection simulanteously nicely) (unlike Linux where I can control the routing tables quite easily). My other option is to somehow get a router or hardware based solution (dedicated linux box?) which just watches for outgoing ports, if its a POP or SMTP based port it puts it out via the dial-up account and everything else goes through the proxy (could I make the linux box do the proxy request? so the clients wouldnt have to have any special proxy settings?). Yet another option is to get a local cable ISP for like 20$ bucks a month for an account that has 256/128 which would be decent enough for the computer(s) that would need "raw" ports. And yet another option would be something like this (http://www.http-tunnel.com/ or http://www.htthost.com/) -- the 2nd one actually can be done for free since I could get a windows box at home (comcast cable - 30kbps up) running a DMZ with that "server" version. Keep in mind I'm trying to keep the costs down as much as I can, which is why I havnet already bought broadband from the cable company........college tuition, enough said

please, if you have any question or dont understand what I'm saying, ask, I'm doing my best to make an educated and "wise" decision. Since this is going to be semi-permanet, 4 years on and off. And I'm on IM, so talk to me there, "surfdale"

Thanks, Dale
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Wow, paragraphs are nice, my reply wont live up the the hf'ers greatness line but from what I take you want to use a proxy for ftp and pop / smtp.

Most proxys have special ports open for ftp, pop, and smtp. You shouldnt need to use socks for ftp. (heck ive used the http proxy for ftp requests, I just had to manually remove the header that the http proxy placed at the start of my binary downloads)

In other words portscan your proxy machine to see what is being hosted.

As for redirecting ports to certain outgoing connections I have no idea.

Good luck =)
 
Perhaps I missed it in the post, but what exactly are you trying to accomplish by all of this customizing? If you're just trying to be a webhost of some sort you should really check the AUP from the college and see if its covered. If you're not, then your only choice would be to pay for an actual hosting service.
 
Use FTP/POP/SMTP/SSH - I already have a linux box which I use as a reseller box and I pay for from a 3rd party, I just have NO access to any of these protocols. In no way am I violating the AUP by pursuing methods to access these protocols within the current network/proxy configuration.

Thanks once again, Dale
 
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