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PlayStation - Digital games will now require the console to connect once every 30 days to continue playing - or not?

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Read more about it here.

Seems like the console must connect to the internet once every 30 days otherwise it will disable access to digitally purchased games until the console connects to the internet again. Applies to new purchases. This is similar to how some PC DRM like Denuvo works, though that is on a game by game basis. For PC gamers, this is a bit disappointing as well as not only are Sony games seemingly going to stop being ported to PC, the few that make it might have Denuvo or similar DRM. Shame, as Sony as doing all the right things. Suppose they're giving Xbox an unintentional lifeline.

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Edit: Seems like Sony is claiming something else now.

Seems like it is a one time online check. Which is more similar to how it works with just Steam DRM.
 
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Sure you may see Xbox do it as well, is this a push by Sony, or game makers...

"You'll own nothing and be happy" comes to mind...

While I am sure 90%+ people who own a PS5, have internet, so this is a non-issue, like you noted, when some games required this, people blew up for a week or 2, then life went on because it really didnt impact many people, the rare "I am on a 10 hour flight and want to play a game" people didnt really matter.

But say you take your console to your cottage for the summer or winter and don't have direct internet, sure you could tether off your mobile, but still, there are cases where I could see a console not being online for 30 days..
 
MrGuvernment said:
Sure you may see Xbox do it as well, is this a push by Sony, or game makers...

"You'll own nothing and be happy" comes to mind...

While I am sure 90%+ people who own a PS5, have internet, so this is a non-issue, like you noted, when some games required this, people blew up for a week or 2, then life went on because it really didnt impact many people, the rare "I am on a 10 hour flight and want to play a game" people didnt really matter.

But say you take your console to your cottage for the summer or winter and don't have direct internet, sure you could tether off your mobile, but still, there are cases where I could see a console not being online for 30 days..
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When I retire to my condo on the moon, I don't want to have to fire up the laser starlink uplink just to play some hotshots golf, dammit.
 
TLDR: So you buy a game, and it means after 30 days.............no internet........you have to re-buy it? or just re-download it.....aka: reactivate it....
 
MrGuvernment said:
But say you take your console to your cottage for the summer or winter and don't have direct internet, sure you could tether off your mobile, but still, there are cases where I could see a console not being online for 30 days..
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The thought of someone going into a coffee shop with a ps5 under their arm to connect puts a smile on my face
 
HeadRusch said:
TLDR: So you buy a game, and it means after 30 days.............no internet........you have to re-buy it? or just re-download it.....aka: reactivate it....
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Just reconnect the console. This is similar to how many games you buy on Steam work. One time I wanted to play a game but the internet was out, but as I last played it over 30 days ago Denuvo would prevent the game from launching. When the internet came back on, it re-authenticated the next time I tried to load it. If you own any Denuvo game on Steam/EGS/EA/Ubisoft, they have the same system. Now they lowered it to 14 days, as all Denuvo games have been bypassed and a new cracker has had a proper crack for the most recent version.

But yes if you have a Denuvo game (or other DRM that is similar), and you want to keep your PC offline you won't be able to play your single player games for long.
 
What I heard was that people figured out how to hack PlayStation (4?) so that they could extract the digital license after buying a game. They could then return the game for a refund within 14 days and then re-apply license back and keep the game. So the change is that when you buy a game now, it initially has a 30 day license. After that 30 days, the refund window has closed and a permanent license will then get installed. And then you are good.

Sony just lost a billion dollars between Concorde/Marathon/Destiny. They can’t be taking any more risks with losing money. Gotta tie up those loose ends.
 
I don't have a PS5 but I would think this is to prevent people from installing a bunch of games on a console, then selling it and telling the person "just don't connect to the Internet". Someone could pre-load tons of games on consoles and sell them.
 
westrock2000 said:
What I heard was that people figured out how to hack PlayStation (4?) so that they could extract the digital license after buying a game. They could then return the game for a refund within 14 days and then re-apply license back and keep the game. So the change is that when you buy a game now, it initially has a 30 day license. After that 30 days, the refund window has closed and a permanent license will then get installed. And then you are good.

Sony just lost a billion dollars between Concorde/Marathon/Destiny. They can’t be taking any more risks with losing money. Gotta tie up those loose ends.
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That makes more sense, and is pretty reasonable. Assuming that's accurate.
 
bigdogchris said:
I don't have a PS5 but I would think this is to prevent people from installing a bunch of games on a console, then selling it and telling the person "just don't connect to the Internet". Someone could pre-load tons of games on consoles and sell them.
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Nah, this is because the Playstation consoles are currently super easy to hack. I modded a PS4 with just a USB stick and a burned Blu-Ray disc. At this point, the Playstation may end up like the Xbox since this is the very same move that killed the Xbox brand. Anyone forget this video in response to what Microsoft was going to do with the Xbox One?


View: https://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA?si=0QJc5lD0u0FrYLOR
 
DukenukemX said:
Nah, this is because the Playstation consoles are currently super easy to hack. I modded a PS4 with just a USB stick and a burned Blu-Ray disc. At this point, the Playstation may end up like the Xbox since this is the very same move that killed the Xbox brand. Anyone forget this video in response to what Microsoft was going to do with the Xbox One?


View: https://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA?si=0QJc5lD0u0FrYLOR
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Ita not the same. Xbox wanted to lock physical games to the console they installed to keep people from reselling them
 
TPU has a story up about the previously mentioned "refund scam"

https://www.techpowerup.com/348625/sonys-new-drm-appears-to-be-a-refund-scam-workaround

News recently broke about a new DRM system Sony had seemingly silently implemented in the PS5 that would make buyers of digital games go online every 30 days to validate a license or potentially be locked out of their games until they could access an internet connection. Now, according to some research done by andshrew on the ResetEra forums, it seems as though it's not quite as simple as that. As it turns out, going online to validate the DRM license may only be a requirement for the first 14 days as an attempt to avoid users buying a game and then refunding the game and playing it anyway in offline mode using some exploit—at least that is the current speculative explanation, since Sony is yet to address this debacle publicly.

The explanation in the ResetEra forum post details the full methodology, but essentially, what the user found by comparing two copies of the same game purchased on two separate PSN accounts, once before the new requirement and once after, is that Sony is now issuing a 30-day license for the first 14 days and swapping that license out for a perpetual license after the refund period has lapsed. This would mean that, after Sony's DRM server has been able to validate the license once after the 14-day refund period is over, there will be no restrictions on offline play, as is usually the case with console games. This somewhat resolves some of the issues that have been brought up surrounding this DRM feature, but it still may present issues for those who are not able to connect to the internet more than 14 days after purchasing a game—this is especially true, since there is no clearly visible notice about this DRM feature on Sony's site at the time of writing.
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Well my next cosole will be the Xbox Playstation is pretty good at collecting dust even in my Highschool woods class VHS End Table.
 
When when the next big hurricane comes and you are on generator for a month+ no PS5 for you.

Stuff like this should be illegal for a game you buy. good thing I'm a PC gamer
Comixbooks said:
This is Fake News Video Cardz just posted Sony responded.

https://videocardz.com/newz/sony-responds-to-ps5-and-ps4-digital-game-license-check-reports
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My bet is the goal was the 30 day thing and these companies are so detached they probably thought no one would care and when it started making bad pr they dropped it for now....but $5 says sometime in the future they will quietly add the 30 today thing back
 
tunatime said:
My bet is the goal was the 30 day thing and these companies are so detached they probably thought no one would care and when it started making bad pr they dropped it for now....but $5 says sometime in the future they will quietly add the 30 today thing back
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I'm not sure if this policy was true to start with. This is more likely the classic "customer support said this!" claim (especially dodgy with that poorly-written line at the end) that doesn't actually reflect the company's approach.
 
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