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INTEL vs AMD

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ActiveMonkey

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Ok, I have been involved in some controversy involving AMD and INTEL processors. I, having an Intel, say Intel is better. However there are a few die hard AMD fan boys who will not accept and form of reason. His argument is that a AMD Opteron Model 848 is better than a Intel Pentium 4 2.8C w/ HT. I call him a dumbass because one is over $1200 more expensive. If he compared the Intel Pentium 4 2.8C w/ HT to a AMD Opteron Model 1.4 that would be one thing. But doesn’t.

So I put forth a simple question. what processors, AMD or INTEL, are the best for GAMING purposes only. Not applications or server, but GAMING.
 
smell that? i smell flames coming!

IMO i think the Athlon 64 is the best single application CPU out there.
 
Don't let yourself be blindly faithful to one side of the market.

All a matter of preference, man, don't go around calling people dumbasses because they like AMD, AMDs are excellent CPUs.

Athlon64 chips can really spank the games, I wish I had me one of them. Intels are better at running some games, Athlons/Athlon64s are better at others.

And for that matter, I prefer Coke. :D
 
really I don't give a flying ficus what's the best, just what fits my needs and budget.

My current needs are socket A, since I have a socket A board....so it's athlon. My budget is kinda slim as well, so it's a lower speed one...hence a 2500.

Now if I was to do this over, it might have been intel, but P4s were insanely overpriced when I went for my first socket A setup.

Either way, I'm holding on to this rig until the 64-bits get to be affordable, then I'll move to those.
 
Originally posted by SlickJesus
smell that? i smell flames coming!

IMO i think the Athlon 64 is the best single application CPU out there.
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hmm....GAME = APPLICATION does it not??? :confused:

i prefer Pepsi myself..

and i definatly have a nose! :D :p
 
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The AMD64's are pretty damn good right now, if you want to pay the price get that, some of the intel c cores a awesome and cheaper, if you want that get that, amd bartons are super cheap, if you want that get that, if you really want hyper-threading, get that. Don't look in terms of AMD or Intel, look in terms of individual processor models that each have, prices for them, and how they perform. Based on that info make the decision of what is best for you, no matter what brand it is.
 
Originally posted by ActiveMonkey
Ok, I have been involved in some controversy involving AMD and INTEL processors. I, having an Intel, say Intel is better. However there are a few die hard AMD fan boys who will not accept and form of reason. His argument is that a AMD Opteron Model 848 is better than a Intel Pentium 4 2.8C w/ HT. I call him a dumbass because one is over $1200 more expensive. If he compared the Intel Pentium 4 2.8C w/ HT to a AMD Opteron Model 1.4 that would be one thing. But doesn’t.

So I put forth a simple question. what processors, AMD or INTEL, are the best for GAMING purposes only. Not applications or server, but GAMING.
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Without contest A64 really. That games run better with hyperthreading DISABLED tells you everything. P 4 isn´t a gaming CPU.

Also for bang for the buck AMD has been the best for several years now.

But the A64 is up against the P 4 3.2 EE so the A64 is really cheap in comparison and perform better in gaming.
 
Man these threads really piss me off!!!! To come in here with this type of flamebait is bullshit! Everyone knows that Coke is better than Pepsi. Coke is the number one cola for making mixed drinks.

Come on, have you ever heard somone order a Rum and Pepsi?

Oh wait, my bad this thread was about something else. Your friend is of course a fool for trying to compare an 848 to to a 2.8c. You are not doing much better by trying to oversimplify it to a general Intel vs. AMD thread. Since you are asking about specifically games, then yes the AMD64 is where it is at.
 
i would say AMD right now merely for the fact that they got 64bit, and are generally cheaper - but intels aren't crappy at all

also, the Athlon64 3000+ is real close to the p4 EE, and you could buy the athlon64 3000 and mobo and shit and still cost less than the p4 EE

however, the companies are so close, it is really up to what you want in a proc, and how much you want to spend
 
Cyrix holds the gaming cpu crown ATM. I ordered mine yesterday, should be here tomorrow. Can't wait to benchmark it.
 
Originally posted by zer0signal667
Opinions are like... noses... everybody has one
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SIGGED!

anyway, i'd get the a64, as 64bit seems to be the way of the future.
 
Originally posted by retardedchicken
agreed.



also, can an admin PLEASE get rid of this before someone's CPU fries from all the FLAMING that will take place soon?
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Cyrix? You are joking right or have I completely missed something? Do they still make CPU:s??

Anyway the P4 3.2 EE cost about1000$ here in Sweden and we generally got cheap hardware over here. I don´t think even the A64 FX 51 cost nearly as much and that perform definiatly better in games
 
Originally posted by oqvist
Cyrix? You are joking right or have I completely missed something? Do they still make CPU:s??
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cyrix all the way:D
only a cyrix can handle hardcore gaming;)

someone one needs to stop this thread before a war starts
 
Originally posted by mattsmall
cyrix all the way:D
only a cyrix can handle hardcore gaming;)

someone one needs to stop this thread before a war starts
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Okay I am selling my mainboard and CPU then.

What Cyrix should I get :confused: :D
 
It all depends on what you use the PC for when deciding which is better. I'm not going to even go into the Opteron debate because those are server chips not desktop chips. You dont compare a server chip to a desktop chip.

What i will compare is the A64 and FX-51 vs the Pentium 4 3.2Ghz Northwood and Pentium 4 3.2EE.

I'll get prices out of the way first of all.

AMD FX-51 $745 retail $733 OEM
AMD A64 3000+ $224 retail
AMD A64 3200+ $282 retail
Pentium 4 3.0c $229 retail
Pentium 4 3.2c $294 retail
Pentium 4 3.2EE $939 retail or *$859 OEM.

*$80 dollar price difference with the OEM version. Only $126 more then the FX-51 OEM.

MaximumPC just did an in-depth cover story on Prescott in the March issue and they also compared the 2.2Ghz FX-51, 3.4Ghz P4EE, and 3.2Ghz P4EE to the Prescott cpu.

As far as games go the 3.2EE won in Halo, Quake III, Jedi Acadamy, and Comanche 4.

The FX-51 won in UT 2003.

The 3.4EE won 21-8 in all the benches vs the FX-51.

Of course the FX-51 is the cheapest here and i would probably buy it over a P4EE if i wanted to spend that much on a processor but the fact remains the 3.4EE is the best desktop processor out ATM.

Also the FX-51 is no better then the A64 3400+. The fact that it is dual channel doesn't help it out at all. Sometimes its a couple of points ahead but the two processors are primarily tied in performance. So the FX-51 is definitely not worth its price tag at all.

For gaming the A64's are the best out right now other then a P4EE. In a few games the Pentium 4 is faster but primarily the A64 is usually anywhere from a couple to ten or more frame rates faster in alot of games. Of course thats only like 3-5% and you can get that kind of performance from buying RAM that can run tighter timings. The A64's gaming performance comes from the low latency on-die memory controller built into the core.

The Pentium 4 is the best overall processor winning in a larger majority of benchmarks vs same relative speed A64's. The Pentium 4 is better for most applications, encodeing, rendering, multitasking, and does best in things that are multi threaded because of Hyperthreading.

If you figure in overclockability and stability then the Pentium 4 wins again. The A64 boards are everything but rock solid boards. Most if not all of them have some form of Memory incompatibility issues. Intel chipsets have always been the most stable chipset boards out there. And with overclockability you can expect to average a 200Mhz overclock on an A64 and a 600Mhz-800Mhz or more overclock from a Pentium 4 depending on the speed of the processor. A 2.8c is fully capable of running 3.6Ghz.

If your a hardcore gamer then i would get an Athlon A64. If you want a solid overall system then i would get the Pentium 4. And if your an overclocker then its no question that the Pentium 4 has went down in history as being one of the best.

Thats all i've got to say about that for the moment :).
 
everybody knows that Macs are simply the best for gaming.....duh.





































:D
Oh and Pepsi >*
 
The Athlon XP is not in the question. A64 and P4C are great CPUs. I'd buy a P4C if I were to buy one today but that is just choice. Both CPUs have great performance. And I really hate AMD fanboys.
 
Originally posted by DocFaustus
Man these threads really piss me off!!!! To come in here with this type of flamebait is bullshit! Everyone knows that Coke is better than Pepsi. Coke is the number one cola for making mixed drinks.

Come on, have you ever heard somone order a Rum and Pepsi?
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You dont mix pop and alcohol together in the first place... :p
 
Originally posted by SlickJesus
smell that? i smell flames coming!

IMO i think the Athlon 64 is the best single application CPU out there.
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This is the type of vague crap answers I usually see....


Amd64 cpus are best in gaming except in that rare occasion where a flipping insane expensive P4EE 3.4ghz wins a gaming test....

Single apps of redering, encoding, and tons of multimedia apps it is still Intel's stronghold...He who doesn't agree with this I guess chooses to discount most of the review sites....
 
You may find THESE CHARTS interesting if you are looking for a great gaming CPU and the best bang for your buck :)
 
People, people, please, come on now. We shouldn't seperate into factions like this, we should unite as one...and singularly call the original poster's friend a fucking idiot for saying that an Opteron 848 would be a good processor for gaming. Dumbass probably thought it was better just because it has higher numbers attached to it. That right there is what we call 'Intel logic.' :p

KIDDING. It wasn't a provocation. Honest.
 
Originally posted by finalgt
unite as one...and singularly call the original poster's friend a fucking idiot
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Yea! Fucking idiot!;)

Actually the mips R10000 in my SGI O2 pwnz you all! (all 195Mhz of it)

and Coke kicks pepsi's ass.

This link sums it up nicely.
 
Mountain Dew > Coke
Coke > Pepsi

Yes i realize Mountain Dew is a Pepsi product but i had to divide it up somewhere lol.
 
If I had to buy a processor right now I would go for a64 if I had lots of money. p4 2.8c if I had mediocore money. barton if I had crappy money.
 
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