how much lag will wireless have?

[trick0502]

right now im running my system directly connected to my router. it is connected 1Gbps to my dlink dgl 4300. i am going to be moving in a few weeks and the router will no longer be in the same room as my pc. i have a p5k deluxe wifi/ap motherboard with the 802.11g card built in. i should be close enough to the router to get a full signal. but even at full signal will i have more lag playing games than directly connected to the router? and if i do have more, how much more? i need to keep those pings down.

 

[imzjustplayin]

Expect pings of up to 100ms, which is what I've experienced. I can guarantee you though that will be some wireless proponent chiming in here saying "no wai!!!!" I easily get 2ms ping on my local network!!!!!

 

[trick0502]

so i can expect ping times that were in the 30-40ms to go up to over 100ms even with a perfect signal?

 

[nobody_here]

right now im running my system directly connected to my router. it is connected 1Gbps to my dlink dgl 4300. i am going to be moving in a few weeks and the router will no longer be in the same room as my pc. i have a p5k deluxe wifi/ap motherboard with the 802.11g card built in. i should be close enough to the router to get a full signal. but even at full signal will i have more lag playing games than directly connected to the router? and if i do have more, how much more? i need to keep those pings down.

on my setup, wireless caps my download speeds around 6-8Mbps, wired to the same router i get around 20Mbps consistently...if that tells you anything

wireless G just doesnt cut it for other than surfing, and even then, being 12 feet away from my wireless AP in the same room (perfect signal) i can tell even when surfing that it is slower and laggier than wired, sometimes it drops packets, every wireless network i have ever used drops packets from time to time

run a CAT5e cable from the router to the PC

 

[trick0502]

thats not really an option. i guess im going to have to call cable and have them add a line next to my pc so i can relocate the router. thanks for the info, you saved a lot of time and frustration. you guy know of any cheap bridges?

 

[Sagan]

Don't listen to these people. They have no experience with wireless gaming. I picked up a wireless DGL4300 gaming router , there is absolutely no noticeable ping difference with this wireless router, I get 30-40 ping in most servers with games like (Cod4, Crysis, CSS, Coh...etc).

I also use p2p applications with it, and I get the same speeds as my pc thats wired to the modem. There is no delay whatsoever even with a connection with (2 out of 5)bars. I had days where I didn't turn of my pc for 2 or 3 days and never got a connection drop. Its that reliable.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127158
It may seem a bit pricey but once you open the configurations menu you'll be overwhelm with the many different things this baby can do.

 

[Grentz]

Wow, what a bunch of misinformation or people using cheap wifi routers.

Expect pings of up to 100ms, which is what I've experienced. I can guarantee you though that will be some wireless proponent chiming in here saying "no wai!!!!" I easily get 2ms ping on my local network!!!!!

No, you dont have to expect that. My wifi router adds 10ms max to my ping (which is nothing). Try pinging your modem from when you are on a machine on the wifi network...it should not add barely anything unless you are getting a very poor signal.

so i can expect ping times that were in the 30-40ms to go up to over 100ms even with a perfect signal?

See answer to quote above /\

on my setup, wireless caps my download speeds around 6-8Mbps, wired to the same router i get around 20Mbps consistently...if that tells you anything

wireless G just doesnt cut it for other than surfing, and even then, being 12 feet away from my wireless AP in the same room (perfect signal) i can tell even when surfing that it is slower and laggier than wired, sometimes it drops packets, every wireless network i have ever used drops packets from time to time

run a CAT5e cable from the router to the PC

Something is wrong there or you are using the wrong rates....G (54Mbps) can easily cover a 20Mbps line with a good signal strength. At college I could pull 25 Mbps from their 30 Mbps internet line via wifi, probably only limited down a bit as the other students were on it. and even then, you do not need anything more than say .5 Mbps for gaming without lag. I have a 512k internet line and I game without lag all the time. Download speed does not = lag. Lag time is a different thing. Also I have noticed that wireless can add more lag to surfing if you have a cheap router. The difference between a cheaper router and say the WRT54Gs that I use for my customers is amazing.

As long as you have a decent router (I recommend and love the Linksys WRT54G and GS routers) and a good signal, you should have no issues gaming at all.

 

[Hagrid]

I have the linksys wrt54g and all the computers connected to it get the same speed as my server which is directly connected. (its within a few k)
The farthest computer which is my main still gets 1MB/sec on a good server.

Like Grentz said, if you have that much of a drop(nobody_here), there is something wrong.

 

[nobody_here]

I have the linksys wrt54g and all the computers connected to it get the same speed as my server which is directly connected. (its within a few k)
The farthest computer which is my main still gets 1MB/sec on a good server.

Like Grentz said, if you have that much of a drop(nobody_here), there is something wrong.

i get that on two different computers, two different wireless adapters, one of which i travel with and use in hotels, airports, and any other hot spots around the nation on all sorts of different routers, same thing, wired is always faster, wireless is always inferior, talk to anyone that really knows their networking stuff and they will tell you the same, any time you can run wires vs. wireless you are better off

 

[trick0502]

i wish i could just disable my wired conection and test out the wireless but my motherboard is out on rma right now (bad flash because of a stupid asus flash tool). so i have no way to do any testing.

 

[-=Antimatter=-]

I'm not going to feed the troll, but on a properly configured system, without lots of nearby interference, you should get great pings to your router from your PC. I've been gaming on my WRT54GL + Tomato for over 3 years now without issues, and I share the connection with three roommates. Some people might not call 20-40ms fast, but if you're worried, then run a cable. You might as well try out the wireless to see how strong your signal is.

Data rate and latency are not synonymous.

 

[imzjustplayin]

Avoid wireless at all costs really.. Not to mention it's a security hazard.

 

[Grentz]

i get that on two different computers, two different wireless adapters, one of which i travel with and use in hotels, airports, and any other hot spots around the nation on all sorts of different routers, same thing, wired is always faster, wireless is always inferior, talk to anyone that really knows their networking stuff and they will tell you the same, any time you can run wires vs. wireless you are better off

yes, you are correct. Wires are better than wireless in most cases, but not for the reasons you stated necessarily. They are better because they are more secure, more reliable, less configuration, less limits, and much faster for internal communications, but not to the internet itself necessarily. Security is of course better with wired, but still wireless is getting pretty darn good. If you set it up properly you should have absolutly no problems with security.


and you probably get the same at hotels and hotspots cause they usually will cap their wireless connections to allow for better bandwidth sharing between wifi users. This is because the wifi APs will reach their capacity much faster than a wired switch or hub.

and in your house it is your adapter but also your router/ap that makes a big difference.


If you are using good wireless equipment setup properly there should be no issue at all. Wifi is plenty fast to not have any effect on internet communications. The speed factor comes in for internal network communications and transfers.

 

[Time2Kill]

I have a D-Link 4300, and was playing TF2 with another guy in the room on his laptop connected wirelessly. I was connected via 1gbps wired. On the same TF2 server, we were within 5ms ping of each other the entire night. Around 25~30ms.

 

[RoBo]

Oh lord the lag is killing me.

192.168.2.1 is the router
192.168.2.254 is the access point.

 

[Hagrid]

i get that on two different computers, two different wireless adapters, one of which i travel with and use in hotels, airports, and any other hot spots around the nation on all sorts of different routers, same thing, wired is always faster, wireless is always inferior, talk to anyone that really knows their networking stuff and they will tell you the same, any time you can run wires vs. wireless you are better off

I didnt say wireless was faster. The wired was a few K faster. So basically not enough to worry about.

Running wires? Who the hell does that anymore? Wireless is just fine unless you need mass speed from giganet adapters.....
I have every comp on wireless except 1, and thats just because Its near the router.

I also run WPA encryption and so far have not had a problem.

 

[nobody_here]

I didnt say wireless was faster. The wired was a few K faster. So basically not enough to worry about.

Running wires? Who the hell does that anymore? Wireless is just fine unless you need mass speed from giganet adapters.....
I have every comp on wireless except 1, and thats just because Its near the router.

I also run WPA encryption and so far have not had a problem.

on the whole, wired is faster, wireless is fast enough for most people, it sure is convenient, i run both, wired for the 360 and PC and keep my wireless open for my laptop when i need to work from home and dont want to be tied down at all......so i use both

as far as who runs wires? i can tell you this, if i was having a home built today, i would have CAT 6 pulled throughout guaranteed, as convenient as wireless is, wired is still king

so to answer that question....i run wires, and so do a lot of people that want solid stable easy to use and fast networks, wireless has it's place, but not as the standard for any of my networks

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Don't forget..the occasional "hiccup" with wireless as it reassociates at the worst possible time. For online gaming....when I moved to the my current home....I'm just renting a 3 story farmhouse as I'm selling my old home...and soon as that's sold..will purchase a new home in this area. So having this rental..I don't feel like taking the time or money to wire the farmhouse. Office on the 3rd floor. Router on first floor. Signal strength was still full 54 megs..good signal...but in playing Battlefield 1942...even on though on an average my pings were hardly higher than with a wired connection, every now and then..like a 1-2 second pause. Sucks when you're flying a plane in a dogfight, or making a bombing run with the B-17...soon as that pause is over..you're a crumpled pile on the ground.

Went to powerline adapters..problem gone.

Screw wireless for online gaming..it's good for websurfing.

And I have a slew of wireless products that I tried...wrt54g with DD, and MIMO products.