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Game Developer "Fed Up With Space Marines!"

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The devs behind Heavy Rain say they are fed up with space marines and the industry's "lack of imagination." Well, just because the developer's tastes have changed since he turned 40, doesn't change the fact there is a fresh batch of 12 - 32 year olds dying to play space marine games. :D

"In Europe, we are not as easy to satisfy; being given a gun to hold is not necessarily enough in a game. But it's not just in Europe, I hear many developers in the US saying the same thing – 'look, I'm 40, I'm fed up of writing games where you shoot at everyone. It was fun when I was twenty but now I want to do something else. I don't watch the same movies as I did when I was 20, I don't listen to the same music, but I'm still making the same games!' Developers are fed up – they want to talk about their families, politics, whatever – why not in a game? Why not?! There is no reason."
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Heavy Rain was cool and I was a huge fan of Indigo Prophecy but your games, regardless how many awards you win, have to sell more than 725k in the U.S. before you try to tell developers that have sold 30+ million space marine games they "lack imagination"
 
Give me a game that's 20 hour cut scene but keeps me entertained and I will gladly pay $50 for it. Average a $10 movie ticket for a 1 1/2 hour movie.
 
Sounds more like a "Europeans gamers are more refined" article than anything else.
 
Ive been saying what this guy is saying since Quake first came out.

After Doom 1 and II, I was just fed up with "run around and shoot" arena style games.

Counter-Strike came in and added a new dimension to multiplayer games, which was greatly appreciated, but now that has gotten a bit old too.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. really added a nice intelligent twist to the FPS with its semi-realistic ballistics and real guns.

I would like to see more game manufacturers make more complicated games, that require thinking and deliberation more than a fast twitchy wrist.

A well executed S.T.A.L.K.E.R. styled multiplayer team based FPS could be AMAZING.

Even a straight port of counter-strike to the Xray engine, using realistic ballistics, and other player dynamics from S.T.A.L.K.E.R would be huge!
 
Sorry, but if I'm in a game, and someone tries to discuss politics with me.. I'm shooting them.
 
Developers are fed up – they want to talk about their families, politics, whatever – why not in a game? Why not?! There is no reason."
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I call BS. There's a damn good reason for this. If you try to preach to me about your political point of view, I won't buy your game.
 
What ... what? Isn't everyone fed up with dragons, faeries and orcs? Jesus H Christ ...

I want a Gamma World MMO
 
I'm all for the next big thing in gaming but what works just works. When I was 20 I liked hot chicks with nice asses and big tits. 22 years later I still do.
 
Wow it seems French game designers are as pompous and arrogant as the rest of their countryman. Wow, would would that thought it? lol!

Seriously as a gamer who has been playing shooters since even before Wolfenstein 3D I can honestly say I'm not tired of space marines, zombies or anything other type of game, I am on the otherhand tired of developers who as they get older seem to feel that gamers are all a bunch of uncouth idiots who aren't smart enough to like the games they produce.

Something tells me the next thing this guy puts out is going to be total artsy piece of shit.
 
Death to the False Emperor! Blood for the Blood God!!

...oh wait, you're not talking about those Space Marines, are you?
 
canna said:
I call BS. There's a damn good reason for this. If you try to preach to me about your political point of view, I won't buy your game.
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Yeah, I can't speak for anyone but myself but I play games to help relax and I love getting caught up in in a story that about real life.

Hell half the time I'm playing a game to forget about all the shit going on in the country and rest of the world, I don't need the game hitting me in the face with reality. LOL!

Also let's not forget that it's been my experience that gamer come from all walks of life, myself I lean toward the conservative side of the political spectrum so I wont likely be buying "Al Gore, Savior of the our Planet" game anytime soon, or will those on the left be likely to buy a "Reagan, The Triumphant Hero!" game.
 
I just turned 41 yesterday and I still love to run around and shoot things (in a game of course :D) so I don't agree with what this fool is selling. I for one love games like Heavy Rain, and the FPS, but I think he feels fed up because a lot of the FPS's are too identical. They need to be a bit more intelligence with their gameplay. As far as the theme/story, a lot of games a much better than the crap coming out of Hollywood at the moment, so I would tell him to shut his whore mouth while "men" are speaking. :D
 
SilverSliver said:
Sounds more like a "Europeans gamers are more refined" article than anything else.
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Nah more a case, that I got a few awards and now I'm suddenly a leading authority on game genre's, Molyneux has a few of those, and he's bat shit crazy these days.

In the end it's pretty much down to what the consumer buys, not my fault 10 million people bought Call of Duty Black Ops, or 12 million people still play WoW, personally I'm looking forward to Space Marine, and I'll buy and play what I bloody well want to, it's not isolated to shooters, I'm more of a serious virtual racer (GT5 is still too arcade like, to be serious) than anything else.
 
canna said:
I call BS. There's a damn good reason for this. If you try to preach to me about your political point of view, I won't buy your game.
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Actually there was a very cool Russia game concept inbetween you were a political spy. It was some akin to a political intrigue sims. You spent game trying avoid getting assisted and managing cover-ups and power upheavels. Not sure where the game went but an awesome concept.
 
piscian18 said:
Actually there was a very cool Russia game concept inbetween you were a political spy. It was some akin to a political intrigue sims. You spent game trying avoid getting assisted and managing cover-ups and power upheavels. Not sure where the game went but an awesome concept.
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My spell check is killing me sorry you were trying to avoid being assassinated while.secretly taking power. Great game idea.
 
Zarathustra[H];1037005968 said:
Counter-Strike came in and added a new dimension to multiplayer games, which was greatly appreciated, but now that has gotten a bit old too.
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I don't think this game got gold. Judging by the amount of people that still play CS and CSS I would believe it's safe to assume people still love this type of game. The thinks that CS does can only be found in CS, no other multiplayer shooter has been able to replicate the same things and execute them correctly.
 
The "Zero Punctuation" videos do a much better job of summarizing the headline. Though the interviewee makes some awkwardly bold transitory statements that I disagree with.

Calling "Heavy Rain" a game is a bold enough statement as is, when it's just a slightly less vindictive "Dragon's Lair" concept of endless quicktime events.
 
Killa_2327 said:
I don't think this game got gold. Judging by the amount of people that still play CS and CSS I would believe it's safe to assume people still love this type of game. The thinks that CS does can only be found in CS, no other multiplayer shooter has been able to replicate the same things and execute them correctly.
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Yeah, don't get me wrong.

I still enjoy the game myself, but I am starting to yearn for more. More realism, more strategy, less run and shoot.

I vaguely remember liking "Americas Army" in this regard, but was kind of put off by the fact that I was essentially playing a recruiting tool. (you know, trying to convince dumb teenage boys who think they are invincible to voluntarily join up for a horribly underpaid, most dangerous job in the world)

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. was bloody brilliant. Immersive environment, semi-realistic ballistics, huge outdoor environments. It just completely failed in the execution of the multiplayer portion of the game.
 
I want more space flight sims like XWing and TIE Fighter, or Wing Commander and Privateer. Privateer actually required some thinking to go along with your flying abilities.
 
SixFootDuo said:
What ... what? Isn't everyone fed up with dragons, faeries and orcs? Jesus H Christ ...

I want a Gamma World MMO
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A well-done Gamma World MMO would be amazingly awesome. Although min/max types would probably ruin it, there might be a way to curb them. It would be fun for them to lose their mutations and gain a third arm growing out of their chest on their way to the spawn ambush. :)

One of the great things about Gamma World was scarcity --- you didn't fire blindly with the high tech wonder weapons b/c ammo/cells/whatever the heck the alien stuff ran on would quickly run out. Every MMO I have seen has unlimited ammo or recharging shots. This would be OK for mutations but not so much for that black ray pistol you tuck in your marsupial pouch for just the right occasion...
 
hkcavalier said:
A well-done Gamma World MMO would be amazingly awesome. Although min/max types would probably ruin it, there might be a way to curb them. It would be fun for them to lose their mutations and gain a third arm growing out of their chest on their way to the spawn ambush. :)

One of the great things about Gamma World was scarcity --- you didn't fire blindly with the high tech wonder weapons b/c ammo/cells/whatever the heck the alien stuff ran on would quickly run out. Every MMO I have seen has unlimited ammo or recharging shots. This would be OK for mutations but not so much for that black ray pistol you tuck in your marsupial pouch for just the right occasion...
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If anyone remembers the old Adventure Construction Set by EA in the mid 80s, I made a few "not great but hey I was twelve" ACS adventures based on Gamma World 3rd Ed (by far the best developed and most fun). ACS was great fun, nowadays the kids just make mods I guess.
 
Politics and Family? Those are stressful topics and people who play games are looking to escape from reality, Space Marines is a good way to do that.
 
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