Hey guys what do you think of the 2 overall as mice, and what do you think is better overall? I haven't seen a display unit of the G9x, but I have for the Performance Mouse MX and it's very comfortable (I have large hands). However the side buttons placement leaves a lot to be desired so I'm still not sure if I want to go with that. That and it's more expensive by at least $20. The G9x looks boxy and unergonomic from pics. Does anyone have it or even the G9 and have any opinions on the comfort?
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G9x vs Performance Mouse MX
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I've owned a G9 and the performance mx (havent owned the G9X but prob the same as the G9 outside more DPI. I found both mice very comfortable, and really don't have a preference. If you game, just get the G9X since it is geared at that, if not, stick w/ the performance mx.
Idk. Looks like all they did was add a sensor with more DPI that you won't even use. But it's not like i really understand all that tech. Is there anyone who even games with it at 5700 dpi? Anything over 2k DPI is too uncontrollable for me.
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I find the extra DPI in gaming mice to be a huge plus for me. Then again, I'm a high sensitivity user, and can span across my entire 1920x1080 screen with about an inch of sideways mouse movement.
With that said, I don't use any of the other features. The thumb buttons go to waste, the DPI adjustments are rarely touched, and the "flyweel" scroll wheel can be found on other Logitech mice. I'd try both out in a B&M store and see which you prefer the feel of. You really can't go wrong either way, unless you're a professional gamer (in which case wireless isn't an option, due to possible signal or battery problems).
With that said, I don't use any of the other features. The thumb buttons go to waste, the DPI adjustments are rarely touched, and the "flyweel" scroll wheel can be found on other Logitech mice. I'd try both out in a B&M store and see which you prefer the feel of. You really can't go wrong either way, unless you're a professional gamer (in which case wireless isn't an option, due to possible signal or battery problems).
They aren't really targeted at the same users. G9x is a gaming mouse, and is more ideal for claw grip users. The performance mx is a workstation/laptop mouse as it's darkfield laser works on almost any surface, and it's polling rate is only 125hz (most gaming grade mouse go from 250 up to 1000). It's also comparatively heavier since it packs a rechargeable AA battery.
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Hmm well personally speaking I`ve never owned a gaming class mouse before. My other mice include the MX Revolution and the MX510. What exactly is the appeal of the extra polling and higher DPI? Excuse my ignorance, but what does an increased DPI offer that simply increasing the sensitivity settings in-game doesn't? And I can settle with claw grip I guess, but I've grown accustomed to how nicely the Revolution fits in my hand and the Performance Mouse MX seems to continue that trend.
Polling rate is the amount of times the USB checks for updates from the mouse. Standard is 125 hz, with gaming mice being able to go from 500-1000hz. This means quicker response from mouse input to the screen. Not exactly noticeable on the desktop, but it's noticeable in-game.
DPI and software sensitivity are two different things. DPI (dots per inch) is the resolution your mouse sensor sees. In a 400 DPI mouse, the sensor can update the position of the cursor 400 times in one inch.
Now let's throw software sensitivity in the mix. When you set Windows sensitivity to 6/11 and turn pointer precision off, then you have a 1:1 ratio with the mouse and pixel movement. What this means is that your 400 DPI mouse will move the cursor 400 pixels in one inch. If you don't have adjustable DPI, you have to raise software sensitivity. The higher the software sensitivity, the higher amount of pixels skipped when the sensor registers a single movement.
I'm not very good at explaining things, but I hope that cleared things up.
DPI and software sensitivity are two different things. DPI (dots per inch) is the resolution your mouse sensor sees. In a 400 DPI mouse, the sensor can update the position of the cursor 400 times in one inch.
Now let's throw software sensitivity in the mix. When you set Windows sensitivity to 6/11 and turn pointer precision off, then you have a 1:1 ratio with the mouse and pixel movement. What this means is that your 400 DPI mouse will move the cursor 400 pixels in one inch. If you don't have adjustable DPI, you have to raise software sensitivity. The higher the software sensitivity, the higher amount of pixels skipped when the sensor registers a single movement.
I'm not very good at explaining things, but I hope that cleared things up.
It really depends on how high sensitivity you need. I play Source games at sensitivity 6 with a 400 DPI mouse and it's just fine for me. Pixel skipping is noticeable, but it hasn't really affected my gameplay since I find the IE 3.0 to be my favorite mouse among the many other gaming mice I've tried.
The biggest issue anyone will have is sniping and long range shots, since your target gets smaller with distance. Skipped pixels means it may be harder to sight in on your target, but I usually don't like to be that far away from my enemies.
Edit: Turning up the software sensitivity alone increases skipped pixels. Turning up the DPI increases precision, but also sensitivity at the same time, just not on a software level. If you moved to a higher DPI setting but wanted to keep the same sensitivity, you would have to drop software sensitivity.
400 DPI sensitivity 2
800 DPI sensitivity 1
Those will have the same in-game sensitivities, with option 2 being more precise because option 1 skips two pixels in the smallest possible movement.
The biggest issue anyone will have is sniping and long range shots, since your target gets smaller with distance. Skipped pixels means it may be harder to sight in on your target, but I usually don't like to be that far away from my enemies.
Edit: Turning up the software sensitivity alone increases skipped pixels. Turning up the DPI increases precision, but also sensitivity at the same time, just not on a software level. If you moved to a higher DPI setting but wanted to keep the same sensitivity, you would have to drop software sensitivity.
400 DPI sensitivity 2
800 DPI sensitivity 1
Those will have the same in-game sensitivities, with option 2 being more precise because option 1 skips two pixels in the smallest possible movement.
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Now, it should be said that yes indeed, the g9x is geared towards claw gaming, but i palm grip it with the wide load grip and love it. Its a bit different with the relatively un-slanted left and right click, but its quite a nice feel.
The precision grip however, my hand just goes into claw mode without me thinking about it, its odd.
I do i do! In battlefield BC2. I use 400 for sniping, 600 for regular use, 1200 for helicopters, 3500 for helicopter gunning and gun emplacements and 5000 for tank turrets.
People get mad at how fast i move the tank and blow them away. And at how fast i move the emplaced minigun thing and shoot down helicopters. And how fast i move the Bamchaka AA turret and pwn people with AA fire. It makes the game much easier.
But my DPI usage depends wholly on the changing sensitivity experienced in vehicles in Battlefield. If you arent gaming like this, then there isnt much point for you to get one.
The precision grip however, my hand just goes into claw mode without me thinking about it, its odd.
I do i do! In battlefield BC2. I use 400 for sniping, 600 for regular use, 1200 for helicopters, 3500 for helicopter gunning and gun emplacements and 5000 for tank turrets.
People get mad at how fast i move the tank and blow them away. And at how fast i move the emplaced minigun thing and shoot down helicopters. And how fast i move the Bamchaka AA turret and pwn people with AA fire. It makes the game much easier.
But my DPI usage depends wholly on the changing sensitivity experienced in vehicles in Battlefield. If you arent gaming like this, then there isnt much point for you to get one.
I'm currently using a MX1100, but ordered a PMX from Amazon this weekend ($46.59 after $20MIR). I'm also considering the G700 mainly because it has a similar shape as the MX1100 and PMX. I really don't need all the buttons and features, but more flexibility with DPI would be nice.
I also tried the Sidewinder X8 (going to use it until the PMX arrives), and it's ok. I'm not sure I'll be able to get used to the shape, it's just not as comfortable. Also, the scroll wheel is HORRIBLE. Other than that, the rest of the mouse is fine. I really like the charging solution MS uses for this mouse. I find it to be a better solution than the one Logitech and Razer use.
I also tried the Sidewinder X8 (going to use it until the PMX arrives), and it's ok. I'm not sure I'll be able to get used to the shape, it's just not as comfortable. Also, the scroll wheel is HORRIBLE. Other than that, the rest of the mouse is fine. I really like the charging solution MS uses for this mouse. I find it to be a better solution than the one Logitech and Razer use.
I dont like switching DPI during games, I leave it at 5700dpi. If the cursor is too fast that is what sensitivities are for. You always want the best precision when shooting, especially sniping.
Ironically, if you use lower DPI normally then to get the most precision via max DPI the cursor becomes faster and harder to control, making it harder to do the very things you need to be precise to do.
I dont know why they sell high dpi mice but give the option of lowering dpi. The DPI buttons should change driver sensitivity instead. Max precision all the time, faster or slower cursor as needed.
Ironically, if you use lower DPI normally then to get the most precision via max DPI the cursor becomes faster and harder to control, making it harder to do the very things you need to be precise to do.
I dont know why they sell high dpi mice but give the option of lowering dpi. The DPI buttons should change driver sensitivity instead. Max precision all the time, faster or slower cursor as needed.
Well after gaming with the PMX for a bit, I started to get hand cramps within 30 minutes. That's something that's never happened ever! G9x performed fine for gaming and no cramps, but the ergonomics still leave something to be desired. I've kept the G9x for now and I guess we'll see how it performs for the next little while. I'm also very interested in the R.A.T. 7, does anyone have that or have any experience with it?
Though I've only ever liked Mad Catz's SF4 TE stick, this mouse does look exactly like something that would appeal to me..
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2010/07/overkill-as-art-ars-reviews-the-cyborg-rat-7.arsThough I've only ever liked Mad Catz's SF4 TE stick, this mouse does look exactly like something that would appeal to me..
I received my PMX today and unfortunately its not nearly as comfortable as the MX1100. The two share a similar shape, but the right side of the PMX drops off and the grip for the last two fingers is not comfortable, and I find my pinky dragging a bit. Ironically, I found the X8 to be more comfortable, but I still wouldn't be able to live with the track wheel.
Unless someone has a recommendation for a mouse with a similar shape, I'm thinking about picking up another MX1100 (currently $30 at BB), and either waiting for the Mionix Naos 3200 to come out or splurge on the Naos 5000.