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Doom3 Haters:

There is one good thing coming out of this though. There should be some games using the engine soon....(maybe they'll add some light to the game so we can see what's going on too)
 
I'm an id fanboy? ok, what, you don't have any favorite games or game developers? oh you do, so you are a fanboy too...of which game might I ask?

I'M A FANBOY CAUSE I RESPECT ID AND LOVE THEIR GAMES? ok, cool. no problem, but just remember you are too...of whatever game you like. I don't think i could have said it better than this:

the vets know this game KICKS ASS and it's prefect. the n00bs know almost nothing and do not understand. i guess you could say lack of experience.. oh well doom3 kicks ass. and you teenagers have no idea what a REAL game is...
 
oozish said:
I'm an id fanboy? ok, what, you don't have any favorite games or game developers? oh you do, so you are a fanboy too...of which game might I ask?

I'M A FANBOY CAUSE I RESPECT ID AND LOVE THEIR GAMES? ok, cool. no problem, but just remember you are too...of whatever game you like. I don't think i could have said it better than this:

why thank you for the backup :cool:
 
efru said:
There is one good thing coming out of this though. There should be some games using the engine soon....(maybe they'll add some light to the game so we can see what's going on too)

Maybe you should calibrate your monitor, increase the gamma a bit in game, and quite complaining about a gameplay technique that was developed for that exact reason.

...it's not just dark cause it's messed up. If you are scared of the dark return the frickin' game.
 
[RIP]Zeus said:
people who don't grasp this game are the ones who never played or played very little of the orginal doom and doom2
these people are probaly no older than 13 to 18
and yes even some 18 year olds don't know about the orginal doom...IMO...people expected more cause of people like us. the ONES who played DOOM and DOOM2. we knew what we where getting into we knew what this game was about. we new CARMACK is a god. the vets know this game KICKS ASS and it's prefect. the n00bs know almost nothing and do not understand. i guess you could say lack of experience.. oh well doom3 kicks ass. and you teenagers have no idea what a REAL game is...

You're a great example of the dumbass fanboi that was mentioned. Calling the creator a god, putting kicks ass in all CAPS and telling the teenagers they have no idea. Great argument, you'll go far with that one.
 
CRXican said:
You're a great example of the dumbass fanboi that was mentioned. Calling the creator a god, putting kicks ass in all CAPS and telling the teenagers they have no idea. Great argument, you'll go far with that one.

I'd much rather be enthusiastic about a game and enjoying it alot than have to be whatever you are about a game....one way of life is fun...your way of life is too serious.
 
[RIP]Zeus said:
people who don't grasp this game are the ones who never played or played very little of the orginal doom and doom2
these people are probaly no older than 13 to 18
and yes even some 18 year olds don't know about the orginal doom...IMO...people expected more cause of people like us. the ONES who played DOOM and DOOM2. we knew what we where getting into we knew what this game was about. we new CARMACK is a god. the vets know this game KICKS ASS and it's prefect. the n00bs know almost nothing and do not understand. i guess you could say lack of experience.. oh well doom3 kicks ass. and you teenagers have no idea what a REAL game is...

That argument is just idiotic. Just because someone doesn't like the game doesn't mean they "don't get it." I also don't think it's ridiculous for people to have expected better gameplay as well as better graphics. When a new Mario Bros game comes out do you expect it to be the exact same game with better graphics, or do you expect a bunch of new features?

It took me a bit to get into the game, but I'm enjoying it now. After you beat the spider boss the enemies start coming faster and in greater numbers. If you're not there yet then just wait. If you don't start getting into it at that point I don't think you're going to.
 
oozish said:
Maybe you should calibrate your monitor, increase the gamma a bit in game, and quite complaining about a gameplay technique that was developed for that exact reason.

...it's not just dark cause it's messed up. If you are scared of the dark return the frickin' game.

i would have to agree
the game is dark scarey and feeds off your fear...if you do not like fear and don't get a rush from it....well either you have no emotions or well your not human...lol
 
These threads are a prime example of mob mentality.

Do you really care if people don't like the game? Have you nothing better to do than to mindlessly defend it? Perhaps you would be better served to post in a "I love D3' thread. Or play the game that you obviously consider earthly kharma.

The energy you are expending here is simple stealing cycles from your folding (hopefully).
 
when i was little, i used to watch my father play doom and wolfenstein 3d non-stop...
i would hide behind his chair, because those mean looking monsters are attacking my dad, hoping my father would survive through :)

then i played rtcw just for my father, knowing he loves these kind of games

now im going to get my hands on doom3, just for my father... he's currently in the hospital, i hope he would survive through cancer :(
 
Dijonase said:
That argument is just idiotic. Just because someone doesn't like the game doesn't mean they "don't get it." I also don't think it's ridiculous for people to have expected better gameplay as well as better graphics. When a new Mario Bros game comes out do you expect it to be the exact same game with better graphics, or do you expect a bunch of new features?

It took me a bit to get into the game, but I'm enjoying it now. After you beat the spider boss the enemies start coming faster and in greater numbers. If you're not there yet then just wait. If you don't start getting into it at that point I don't think you're going to.

kinda funny you said this
When a new Mario Bros game comes out do you expect it to be the exact same game with better graphics, or do you expect a bunch of new features?

now if you have not noticed. doom3 is a hell of alot better than doom and doom2. overall graphics are better gameplay is better. wouldn't you call that new features?
would you not call going from sprites to pixels a new feature?
 
agent420 said:
The energy you are expending here is simple stealing cycles from your folding (hopefully).

Oh no! You're right, my folding cycles!!!

LOL

oh ya, and don't you remember? 'THE MOB RULES?'
 
hey oozish can you explain to some of these people the HUGE diffence between doom, doom2 and doom3 our? :D
lol
hehehe seems they do not understand 1993 graphics to 2004 graphics :D
 
[RIP]Zeus said:
hey oozish can you explain to some of these people the HUGE diffence between doom, doom2 and doom3 our? :D
lol
hehehe seems they do not understand 1993 graphics to 2004 graphics :D

no one is arguing about the graphics, you get smarter with every post!
 
the vets know this game KICKS ASS and it's prefect. the n00bs know almost nothing and do not understand. i guess you could say lack of experience.. oh well doom3 kicks ass. and you teenagers have no idea what a REAL game is...

why is it that one of the primary defense of the game is that, "if you dont love it, you dont know games." people like different types of games. people have feelings about all types of games. i personally didn't like doom3, thought there was room for a lot of improvement. does that mean i dont know games? no. if you're going to defend doom3, do it on a mature and intelligent level at least. dont just say that 'the game rules, you're all teenagers and dont know anything' and expect that defense to really hold any sand at all.

maybe its a bit farfetched to expect great graphics and great gameplay. i guess i'm just spoiled by old school games where gameplay mattered more than story. call me old school :(
 
CRXican said:
no one is arguing about the graphics, you get smarter with every post!

maybe you need to start reading the thread than skimming through it

Originally Posted by Dijonase
That argument is just idiotic. Just because someone doesn't like the game doesn't mean they "don't get it." I also don't think it's ridiculous for people to have expected better gameplay as well as better graphics.
When a new Mario Bros game comes out do you expect it to be the exact same game with better graphics, or do you expect a bunch of new features?

Now does doom3 have new features or are they the same as doom and doom2? and that also goes for graphics
 
rekojenasni_787 said:
when i was little, i used to watch my father play doom and wolfenstein 3d non-stop...
i would hide behind his chair, because those mean looking monsters are attacking my dad, hoping my father would survive through :)

then i played rtcw just for my father, knowing he loves these kind of games

now im going to get my hands on doom3, just for my father... he's currently in the hospital, i hope he would survive through cancer :(
I'm sorry to hear that. Beyond all this commotion, d3 is a good game, despite whatever expectations may or may not have been met.

oozish said:
Oh no! You're right, my folding cycles!!!

LOL
Yes, that's right, your folding cycles.
 
To tell you the truth I dont have a favorite "game developer". If the game sucks, it sucks. I'm not going to sit around with my doom 3 action figurines and go online and rant and rave about how great a game is, when I know it's one huge, embarrasing failure.

With the darkness issue... Yes, my monitor is all the way up, brightness up, all that crap. Why should we all have to this? Shouldn't the game be playable without having to sit there in real life with night vision goggles on?

Also, this game isn't scary, at all. For some reason I find baby heads with spider legs rather comical. Could just be me though :rolleyes:
 
[RIP]Zeus said:
kinda funny you said this


now if you have not noticed. doom3 is a hell of alot better than doom and doom2. overall graphics are better gameplay is better. wouldn't you call that new features?
would you not call going from sprites to pixels a new feature?

Man, I said that I'm enjoying the game and I'm being attacked. Graphical changes aside, the gameplay is pretty much the same as old school DOOM. That's where the complaints are. Nobody is saying the game looks bad. They're saying the gameplay is boring.

DOOM 3 gameplay: enter a room (or hallway) wait for monsters to spawn, kill them, go to next room, repeat. They even use the same old trick of a pointless hiding place behind a wall from which creatures sneak up behind you.

I think you misunderstood the point of the Mario comment. Take Mario Sunshine for example. Sure, the graphics are much better than those of the original, but they also added a load of new gameplay possibilities with the water cannon thingy (I think this was sunshine...I haven't played a Mario game since Mario 64).

And let me say again: I LIKE THE GAME. It's fun. Attack someone who thinks it sucks, not someone who is enjoying it. :p
 
efru said:
To tell you the truth I dont have a favorite "game developer". If the game sucks, it sucks. I'm not going to sit around with my doom 3 action figurines and go online and rant and rave about how great a game is, when I know it's one huge, embarrasing failure.

With the darkness issue... Yes, my monitor is all the way up, brightness up, all that crap. Why should we all have to this? Shouldn't the game be playable without having to sit there in real life with night vision goggles on?

Also, this game isn't scary, at all. For some reason I find baby heads with spider legs rather comical. Could just be me though :rolleyes:

You must be joking right? I mean, sure you don't like the game but this?!?

when I know it's one huge, embarrasing failure.

LOL, that cracked me up. Also, you shouldn't have to turn up your brightness and stuff, your monitor should be properly calibrated and DOOM3 will run as it's supposed to. I like the 'r_gamma @ 1.3' but if you have trouble with the gamma try this or higher.

Obviously you don't like the darkness gameplay mechanic, too bad you bought the game huh?

**oh ya, were you making fun of my doom action figurines i play with? THAT'S CROSSING THE LINE!

:D
 
Dijonase said:
Man, I said that I'm enjoying the game and I'm being attacked. Graphical changes aside, the gameplay is pretty much the same as old school DOOM. That's where the complaints are. Nobody is saying the game looks bad. They're saying the gameplay is boring.

DOOM 3 gameplay: enter a room (or hallway) wait for monsters to spawn, kill them, go to next room, repeat. They even use the same old trick of a pointless hiding place behind a wall from which creatures sneak up behind you.

I think you misunderstood the point of the Mario comment. Take Mario Sunshine for example. Sure, the graphics are much better than those of the original, but they also added a load of new gameplay possibilities with the water cannon thingy (I think this was sunshine...I haven't played a Mario game since Mario 64).

And let me say again: I LIKE THE GAME. It's fun. Attack someone who thinks it sucks, not someone who is enjoying it. :p

i am sorry for taking your post wrong. i do agree with you in some points. and also disagree. but i am sorry for taking your post in the wrong way..
 
oozish said:
You must be joking right? I mean, sure you don't like the game but this?!?



LOL, that cracked me up. Also, you shouldn't have to turn up your brightness and stuff, your monitor should be properly calibrated and DOOM3 will run as it's supposed to. I like the 'r_gamma @ 1.3' but if you have trouble with the gamma try this or higher.

Obviously you don't like the darkness gameplay mechanic, too bad you bought the game huh?

**oh ya, were you making fun of my doom action figurines i play with? THAT'S CROSSING THE LINE!

:D

i have action figures from doom3 lol
hehehehehhe i go bang bang damnit die bastard oh fuck to big run away run away ahhh weeee kick a laptop. yell scream die omfg nooooooo....ouch that hurt fucker weeeee...lol

i am disturbed :D
 
[RIP]Zeus said:
i am sorry for taking your post wrong. i do agree with you in some points. and also disagree. but i am sorry for taking your post in the wrong way..

Hey, it's cool. I posted somewhere in these forums a day ago that I was disappointed in the game, but I've since changed my opinion. It's a damned fun game if you just try to immerse yourself.
 
Dijonase said:
Hey, it's cool. I posted somewhere in these forums a day ago that I was disappointed in the game, but I've since changed my opinion. It's a damned fun game if you just try to immerse yourself.

what i love about immersing yourself into the game is that you will need a econemy size box of depends :D
 
holy sweet jesus. someone else from raleigh. um. yeh. kinda derailed the thread. but needed to post some !!!!????. cause i never see people online from there. stupid rednecks dont know how to use the internet.
 
My monitor is fine.

If id thought that making the game this dark would make it scarier..
 
Cigolon said:
holy sweet jesus. someone else from raleigh. um. yeh. kinda derailed the thread. but needed to post some !!!!????. cause i never see people online from there. stupid rednecks dont know how to use the internet.

Hey now. Most people who live in Raleigh are transplants (like me). And even the ones who are from here aren't usually stupid redencks. Once you start to move out into the country...al bets are off, but that's the case wherever you go.

Besides, with RTP right down the road I think the image of North Carolina as a redneck state may begin to change. I hope so anyway.
 
Ok... Doom 3 threads always seem to get crapped on. So...

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Doom III kicks ass for those that love it; Doom III sucks ass for those that hate it.

Doom III will definately go down in history with a cult-following, just like offbeat games such as Thief.
 
Where can I look for info on this game called Theif? Doom III can lick my sweaty chode and as a result has been bought and sold.
 
CRXican said:
Where can I look for info on this game called Theif? Doom III can lick my sweaty chode and as a result has been bought and sold.

Google
 
CRXican said:
Where can I look for info on this game called Theif? Doom III can lick my sweaty chode and as a result has been bought and sold.


LOL, I think you just gave up your age. n00bie.
 
The attention to detail in the visuals are just amazing and that is what's got me playing until 1 AM each night. Having read the book "Masters Of Doom" I would say that this is the game that these boys wanted to make since day 1 of Id Software. I congratulate them on a graphical tour de force.

I would hazard that some of the problems with single player is that we've been spoiled by multiplayer games. Playing against bots that are programmed to be hard to kill, usually in the same spot, rather than human opponents is kind of boring these days. Other than the spiders coming towards me and popping them off one at a time (they move quickly, make a great scuttling sound, if you don't get them in order they'll eff u up) I am finding the combat to be uninspired, even when it's hard enough to kill me.

"Good against remotes is one thing, good against the living, that's something else" - Han Solo.
 
[RIP]Zeus said:
people who don't grasp this game are the ones who never played or played very little of the orginal doom and doom2
these people are probaly no older than 13 to 18
and yes even some 18 year olds don't know about the orginal doom...IMO...people expected more cause of people like us. the ONES who played DOOM and DOOM2. we knew what we where getting into we knew what this game was about. we new CARMACK is a god. the vets know this game KICKS ASS and it's prefect. the n00bs know almost nothing and do not understand. i guess you could say lack of experience.. oh well doom3 kicks ass. and you teenagers have no idea what a REAL game is...


HOLY SHIT!!!! I'm in that age group.....and i played doom and doom2 (several times.)

but wait....


I don't think carmack is a god. I liked doom and doom 2, but I DON'T LIKE DOOM 3

I HATE PEOPLE THAT GENERALIZE AND MAKE UP BULLSHIT TO SUPPORT THEIR ARGUMENT

I remember loving doom (and doom2 and wolf3d) because of all the multitudes of "realistic" monsters that you could kill at one time. Blowing imps up with a shotgun was just good clean fun :p Chainsawing pink guys was also just good clean fun. Being able to see all this because the levels were lit was also good clean fun.

Fastforward to 2004. Doom3 just doesn't do it for me. EDIT: there are a bunch of reasons. Gamespot review sums most of my problems up nicely + a few more

$0.02
 
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