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Do you read those EULA's

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NeghVar

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Do you read the EULA's and TOS's before you play the game? Very few do since its written in a language that only lawyers and politicians understand. Check out what you are skipping
http://eff.org/wp/eula.php :eek: :mad: :( :confused:
 
Heh, no one reads them unless there is a potential issue.
 
Only for questionable software (spyware laiden). Otherwise they are all the same... bull****.
 
games, no, but sometimes programs that are shareware I browse because I am suspicious.
 
By the time you read the EULA it's too late. You agree to whatever they have printed inside the box when you open the shrink-wrap.
They could put a piece of paper in there that says you have to give them your first born son and it would be as legally binding as the EULA you read when installing the game. Because you agree to it the second you open the box. Complete bullshit

Fucking lawyers.
 
S1nF1xx said:
By the time you read the EULA it's too late. You agree to whatever they have printed inside the box when you open the shrink-wrap.
They could put a piece of paper in there that says you have to give them your first born son and it would be as legally binding as the EULA you read when installing the game. Because you agree to it the second you open the box. Complete bullshit

Fucking lawyers.
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yup, and because you are forced to open the box to read the EULA it cannot be held as binding in the cases where a vendor states that you have opened the product, just tell them you don't agree to the EULA and wish a refund, they'll argue it, at which time you point out that you had to open the box to read the EULA and unless they made the EULA available before hand and informed you that it was available they don't have a damn leg to stand on.
Works eveytime, you just need to start quoting things like consumer protection acts and distance selling regulations(I'm applying this to the UK) and they'll back right off.

Dano.
 
word for word. I guess it comes from my line of work, but yeah...word for word.
 
I never used to read them, but here lately with the upheaval about the Steam EULA, and WoW's, I've been at least scanning over them. I imagine the further down the road we get, it will be a practical necessity as the publishers get more and more tenacious about protecting their IP.

 
there was a successful lawsuit against symantic, network associates and a few retailers because of not providing a EULA before purchase. Now retailers have to have a EULA available before purchase. Whether it be pdf or hardcopy. they are only available by request though. So they are still rarely ever asked for
 
p[H]ant0m said:
I never used to read them, but here lately with the upheaval about the Steam EULA, and WoW's, I've been at least scanning over them. I imagine the further down the road we get, it will be a practical necessity as the publishers get more and more tenacious about protecting their IP.

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What was the deal w/ WoW's EULA?
 
S1nF1xx said:
By the time you read the EULA it's too late. You agree to whatever they have printed inside the box when you open the shrink-wrap.
They could put a piece of paper in there that says you have to give them your first born son and it would be as legally binding as the EULA you read when installing the game. Because you agree to it the second you open the box. Complete bullshit

Fucking lawyers.
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I've heard about several states making this practice illegal, and it's either gone or is going before the Supreme Court. The practice is unethical at best, and downright inhuman at worst. Logic dictates that it is impossible for someone to agree to something without knowing what it is, and in the event of being coerced into a contract, said contract is nullified. Just have to work on making that practice illegal.

Want to do something about it, start raising awareness, become active. Write letters to state/national governmental officials. If an issue gets enough attention, especially from young voters, politicians listen. By the way, having known several politicians personally, unless they are or have been lawyers, they don't understand that language either.
 
They should be forced to make the EULA concise.

We shouldn't be expected to read a legal bible every time we install a new game.
 
I actually read most of WoW EULA the other day when I was applying the new patch, and man, I am impressed they even allow you to make a character. They have some very strict rules over naming. It was an odd read, but interesting all the same.
 
I always read anything that I have to sign or otherwise agree to, be it a written contract, an EULA, or my daughter's report card.
 
There was a decent uproar over WoW's EULA in regards to transfer of the game. I guess according to the EULA you can transfer the game to an additional party, as long as it contains all relevant materials (manuals, box, etc.). However, when trying to activate the game, you cannot, as the cd-key is already tied to an existing character. The original Slashdot post I saw this on was here.

 
That is interesting. Thanks for the link.

By the sounds of the EULA agreement, Blizzard seems to have found numerous loopholes in their own agreement by just negating things they put in it. It almost seems like a waste of space, but from a legal perspective, I believe they have all their bases covered. However, I will look more into this later. Good case for debate.
 
To Rick Tate
Though this thread is over 1.5 years old, the continuation of this thread with my new post here is very relevent to the subject. So please don't kill it just because of its age.

I read the newest issue of CPU magazine, it had a list of all kinds of useful utilities. One that caught my eye is called "EULAlyzer" when you are at the screen that shows the "End User License Agreement" run this program and it will scan for keywords like "third-party" and other indications of privacy and/or rights violations.

here is the link...
EULAlyzer

Once again, please don't kill this thread merely because of it's age.
 
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