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Blu-Ray vs Streaming

pendragon1 said:
a whole bunch of shit. theres a pic near the top of the page with a good chunk of it, and more in recent purchases. and what i currently have in my amazon list...
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All great movies!


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While i do like streaming on occasion, i also like the option of watching movies on physical media. Estimate i have about 500-600 Blu-ray/4K, and another 200-300 DVD's atm. Currently in the process of replacing the DVD versions i can with Blu-ray, or better yet with 4K. Unfortunately, there are some movies that most likely will never be upgraded to better versions at least for the time being. Picture of a large portion of my current collection atm.
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Sorry about the mess. Cats like to play and bags are their new passion this week.
 
pendragon1 said:
a whole bunch of shit. theres a pic near the top of the page with a good chunk of it, and more in recent purchases. and what i currently have in my amazon list...
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some of those i have not seen. But if you have a decent home theater with subs and surrounds, EDGE OF TOMORROW is my jam. That movie goes hard. Maybe not the best tom cruise movie out there, but i like it.
 
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dammum bra, so envious..

Also if no one else mentioned it, and i forgot to as well.

A good thing of having physical content over stream/internet in addition to what others and I previously typed is that with physical DVD/blue ray you are immune to internet connection issues, internet ping/speed issues or a location just having NO or crappy internet.

So long as you can get electricity to a location and the spot is safe to put a TV and a blue ray/dvd player, you can have video entertainment!
 
except for firmware updates to enable new copy protection schemes. not sure if thats much of an issue these days though...
my buddy's collection is bigger, probably 3x that. he could re-open our block buster.

picked up a few more:
blues bros, snatch and horizon saga part 1
 
I tend to get the old TV classics myself when i get physical media. (Have "The Incredible Hulk-Complete Original series, Wonder Woman complete series, Mash Complete series, Gilligan's Island Complete series, Also have the complete series of "I dream of Jeanie" and Bewitched", Sliders complete series, Farscape Complete series, Space 1999 complete series, Flintstones complete series to name just a few)
Just picked up "Near Dark" (Old 80's vampire movie) which i think is a good, underrated gem. "My Science Project" is also another good not-much mentioned 80's movie.
 
i dont have much for tv shows. just macgyver, trailer park boys, chappelles show, weeds, and some of family guy. all on dvd. sg-1 on bluray is on my amazon list though...
 
ive got it on bluray, not sure if ill bother with 4k as theres barely a difference in image and sound is the same. and its not on sale up here...
 
pendragon1 said:
ive got it on bluray, not sure if ill bother with 4k as theres barely a difference in image and sound is the same. and its not on sale up here...
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I ment to ask you if you were going to focus on 4K. I am going Blu-Ray unless the 4K is cheaper.

Edit, ahh I keep forgetting you are in Ca.
 
mullet said:
I ment to ask you if you were going to focus on 4K. I am going Blu-Ray unless the 4K is cheaper.

Edit, ahh I keep forgetting you are in Ca.
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focusing on 4k unless the audio hasnt been upgraded then i dont care as much. and i wait until shits on sale, was burned by the "limited edition" box sets i got....
 
A "general" statement, that hold true across many things. Back when HD was new-ish, DVDs looked amazing..... and those exact same DVDs, even upscaled, look amazing today. Why? Because of how things "matched" with regards to the camera and the digital process. However, a movie shot for 4K, when taken way down to DVD looks absolutely terrible. The shots were not designed for even FHD, which is why even normal Blurays of same also don't look that good.

It's sort of like having a well matched computer system, where all the parts were meant for each other, or a well matched "stereo system" (look it up).

In short, my older DVDs look amazing even today. I think we made a mistake.
 
DVDs era movies were often shot in 35mm film which is perfectly fine for way more than 4k (let alone that ~480p of DVDs which was not something camera/film type of limit they had in mind at all) .

65mm movies would even look fine on DVD, Baraka (70mm) was scanned in 8k and that the source that was used for one of the DVD version and did look really nice, https://insidepulse.com/2008/11/21/baraka-2-disc-special-edition-dvd-review/

Space odyssey, ben hur, many went from the highest quality film, 8k master to DVD perfectly fine, movies that did not had home physical media in mind at all during their production.

Not watched anything recent on a dvd in a very long time so no idea about the claim that more recent movies does not look as good as old one on DVD, but if that the case, it could be the amount of effort that goes into making them went way down as their sales plummeted, more than something about cameras (say the Hateful 8 dvd, Tarantino used the same ultra panavision camera and lens has Ben Hur did back in the days) or master resolution going up.
 
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I started collecting VHS in the late 80's when i could afford them, DVD's the same when they started up, and currently (As i previously posted) upgrading everything in my collection to 4K or Blu-ray if possible. There's still a lot of older, obscure titles that aren't or never will be most likely made into Blu-rays, much less 4K or streamed in the near future, so have to make do with the physical media. Have some old 70's-80's movies that used to play on HBO and Cinemax and the like which i can't get on streaming atm. (Harry's War, Improper Channels, ect) Did find a website online that copies VHS to DVD and the like so i have a few of the titles that never got the physical DVD/streaming treatment fortunately.
 
It doesn't feel right to me to build up a large library of 4k blurays when so many movies are shot at higher res digitally or scanned to digital. I feel like when 8k tvs are the standard they will start releasing 8k versions of movies causing everyone to buy them over again.
I am sort of a pixel peeper / perfectionist so I always want the highest quality version.
 
xSneak said:
It doesn't feel right to me to build up a large library of 4k blurays when so many movies are shot at higher res digitally or scanned to digital. I feel like when 8k tvs are the standard they will start releasing 8k versions of movies causing everyone to buy them over again.
I am sort of a pixel peeper / perfectionist so I always want the highest quality version.
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HDR/Dolby Vision is really the reason to upgrade vs resolution - makes thinks 'pop'
 
xSneak said:
It doesn't feel right to me to build up a large library of 4k blurays when so many movies are shot at higher res digitally or scanned to digital. I feel like when 8k tvs are the standard they will start releasing 8k versions of movies causing everyone to buy them over again.
I am sort of a pixel peeper / perfectionist so I always want the highest quality version.
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They do shot at higher res but they often not fully block and choose from the footage (crop the 4k they want from the 6/8k image) or stabilize shots.

It is quite competitive/costly and they optimise for the theatrical and other upcoming release without being able to afford long term play like that, the CGI is still often made in 2/4k and all the master, in betweens, not just the final product, making 8K version would still be a lot of work and I can see them using AI upscaling instead of re-rendering everything anyway (going over 4k is quite far in the diminishing return territory), which your 8k player/tv could do a lesser but still good job at it.

Even Chris Nolan, 70mm guy himself, was not able to see any benefit for CGI over 6k on giant Imax projection, he wanted to "match" a good chemical film theorical limit of ~16/18K, they convinved him he was not able to see any difference.
 
xSneak said:
It doesn't feel right to me to build up a large library of 4k blurays when so many movies are shot at higher res digitally or scanned to digital. I feel like when 8k tvs are the standard they will start releasing 8k versions of movies causing everyone to buy them over again.
I am sort of a pixel peeper / perfectionist so I always want the highest quality version.
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8k is probably diminishing returns. 4k is already pretty close (but my projector is a 2k with wobble so...). I bought a movie series in 4k+blu-ray and watched the first two on blu-ray by accident... 4k looked nicer, but blu-ray was fine. Blu-ray is a lot bigger step vs DVD, although well mastered DVDs aren't that bad (poorly mastered DVDs though, ooof). DVD was also way nicer than VHS, and way easier to mail compared with laserdiscs.

Anyway, I wouldn't buy anything on DVD these days, unless there's no other option or it's a huge price difference for something that doesn't justify it, like Super Mario Bros (1993). But Bluray will probably be fine. Of the movies I've bought on BluRay, I would only buy a few on 4k; for some, BluRay provided detail I didn't need to see (wire work and such). If in the future, I do 8k, I would probably only rebuy a couple.
 
pendragon1 said:
lol what 8k?!
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This. Considering how much content is still 1080p it seems (cable / streaming unless you pay more for "4k" false crap".

Since most people likely consume content via streaming, and not only on TVs but mobile devices, 8k content becoming the norm likely wont happen any time soon. Some sets will release sure, for those people who want the best, and when they do, you might get a handful of movie releases redone for 8k and that will be it for years!
 
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