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Scotch77

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My system is below. I have a 9600XT and well it does the job but not as well as I like. I need a laptop for school and will probrolly get a IBM T60. I had upgraded to a x850XT a while ago, but it made my system in generally slower, but the games faster. I dont understand this. It made boot up and everyday tasks much lower but gaming was great. I ended up returning it because I could not take the overall system slow down.

I want to be able to play the new battlefield 2142 with my brother when it come out. so I want a new card that is not going to kill my system performance and one that is not going to break the bank. The cards now wheich would be good for me are relitivly cheap.
 
Scotch77 said:
My system is below. I have a 9600XT and well it does the job but not as well as I like. I need a laptop for school and will probrolly get a IBM T60. I had upgraded to a x850XT a while ago, but it made my system in generally slower, but the games faster. I dont understand this. It made boot up and everyday tasks much lower but gaming was great. I ended up returning it because I could not take the overall system slow down.

I want to be able to play the new battlefield 2142 with my brother when it come out. so I want a new card that is not going to kill my system performance and one that is not going to break the bank. The cards now wheich would be good for me are relitivly cheap.
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Before you invest you hard earned $$ into another new card you might want to ascertain the nature of the problem you previously encountered so that you don't repeat the undesirable situation again. There's no sensible that a video card upgrade should produce for you overall system slow down. Perhaps you have driver issues; maybe went from nvidia to Ati but whatever it was that should not be present.
 
It pretty much was made the consensus on many forums that my system was to slow for the x850XT. at first I only had 512mb of ram, which I then upgraded to 1gb in a 2x512MB pair. The problem was still not resolved. I gave up and pretty much returned it.


As for a driver issiue, Im not to sure if that was possible, I had done a fresh install of windows xp, on recieving the new gpu.
 
Well I am looking at your signature and I am going to ask you this question:

What is the first thing that they teach you in A+? Look at the power supply. It is not the video card that is slowing down your system, but perhaps the power supply is having problems mustering the power to make the card usable. ;)
 
fireluxx said:
Well I am looking at your signature and I am going to ask you this question:

What is the first thing that they teach you in A+? Look at the power supply. It is not the video card that is slowing down your system, but perhaps the power supply is having problems mustering the power to make the card usable. ;)
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His sig says that he has a namebrand 550w powersupply... :rolleyes:
If your system is actually what you have in your sig, then it should be running more than fine. The "lag" might just be in your head.
 
Maybe you need a lesson in power supply reliability. Watts doesn't mean sh*t when it comes to power supplies, the amps per rail does. Seeing that the TruePower 550 is an aging model, he may have a 12v rail that can't deliver the juice to the video card. Another possibility is that the power supply may have weak caps, something that Antec was quite well known for.

I'd recommend testing with a multimeter to see what that rail looks like right now.
 
fireluxx said:
Maybe you need a lesson in power supply reliability. Watts doesn't mean sh*t when it comes to power supplies, the amps per rail does. Seeing that the TruePower 550 is an aging model, he may have a 12v rail that can't deliver the juice to the video card. Another possibility is that the power supply may have weak caps, something that Antec was quite well known for.

I'd recommend testing with a multimeter to see what that rail looks like right now.
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9600xt runs off of the motherboard power.. not a seperate rail.. If the rail that was running the motherboard wasn't getting enough wattage, the entire system wouldn't work AT ALL, it wouldn't even boot..

Whe needs a lesson? Go back to A+.
 
I don't A+ to tell you that you are already a moron and can't read past your ignorance. I am not referring to his 9600XT, I am referring to his X850, the main reason why he posted this thread. Stop posting B.S. and post something relative to the conversation.

Get a clue. :rolleyes:
 
fireluxx said:
I don't A+ to tell you that you are already a moron and can't read past your ignorance. I am not referring to his 9600XT, I am referring to his X850, the main reason why he posted this thread. Stop posting B.S. and post something relative to the conversation.

Get a clue. :rolleyes:
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whoops. :D

I goofed..
but at least I took the time to read the rules and see that its against the rules to have a sig bigger than 10 lines.. :cool:
 
Girls, stop fighting... :eek: :D

Anyway, it very well could be a PSU problem. But my money is probably on a bad driver upgrade. To the OP: your system IS NOT too slow to run an X850XT. Heck, your processor is faster than mine. And I run an X850XT PE with no "slow down" of any kind and all of my games run great.
 
Antec Truepower can run the highest card out today... It's not that old and Antec power supplys are known for stable operations..

I don't know why your computer would slow down... Mabye games but not the system... Maybe you have CCC drivers installed.. That thing is a system hog...
 
Sounds like a nice setup with the x850. You might as well get ready to buy 2 more stcks = (2G) of ram to play Battlefield 2142
 
Thanks for all the responses. while the power issue was one that came into my mind, I then did check the 12V rail, the result was that it was 12.03V. I thoght the power was fine. It is still a possibility. Even if the power was the problem, wouldent that more adversly affect the gaming capabilities of the computer. Because playing of games was really nice. Just the Boot and the overall responsiveness of the computer was sluggish. Something me Nor ATI tech support could figure out. I couldent deal with close to 1.5 minute boot times and 30 seconds to open firefox.

The funniest part was even when I took the x850XT out, and then put in the 9600XT, with just a restart the system would boot fine and be responsive.



Im ready to try again I guess. Ive been looking at the 6800GT and such one ebay. what should I be looking for, I dont want to go over $150,

Pretty insane I can get a 6800 Ultra for $130 on ebay!!!!!!
 
Scotch77 said:
Im ready to try again I guess. Ive been looking at the 6800GT and such one ebay. what should I be looking for, I dont want to go over $150,

Pretty insane I can get a 6800 Ultra for $130 on ebay!!!!!!
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Or maybe even less here
 
Did you by chance reinstall windows? I have a feeling that something was messed up software wise, that or an undocumented motherboard incompatibility.
 
Scotch77 said:
Thanks for all the responses. while the power issue was one that came into my mind, I then did check the 12V rail, the result was that it was 12.03V. I thoght the power was fine. It is still a possibility. Even if the power was the problem, wouldent that more adversly affect the gaming capabilities of the computer. Because playing of games was really nice. Just the Boot and the overall responsiveness of the computer was sluggish. Something me Nor ATI tech support could figure out. I couldent deal with close to 1.5 minute boot times and 30 seconds to open firefox.

The funniest part was even when I took the x850XT out, and then put in the 9600XT, with just a restart the system would boot fine and be responsive.



Im ready to try again I guess. Ive been looking at the 6800GT and such one ebay. what should I be looking for, I dont want to go over $150,

Pretty insane I can get a 6800 Ultra for $130 on ebay!!!!!!
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Your PSU is most likely ok.
It could be a conflict of old and new drivers, I dont know if you ever installed any older ones for the older card.

If so, try uninstalling the drivers and running Driver Cleaner Pro
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=8
Once removed, reboot and install the ATI drivers.
Hopefully this will fix it.
 
well I did a clean instal during this time. I always do, I reinstall windows about every 2 weeks or so, just because I can, Its fast with a unattended and I like a fresh system.

so Im not sure if it were drivers, as I reformatted the drive and reinstalled.


I don't have the x850XT anymore, I returned it due to this problem. Now Im looking for another card.
 
Its bizarre, maybe there is something about the CCC (as mentioned by Marvelous) that your system doesnt like.

I used ATI tray tools for a long time and didnt miss the CCC app, all the features I needed were present in ATI tray tools.
I overclocked with ATI tool.
I have CCC installed now to try it but its buggy and fairly useless most of the time :)

You can download the separate drivers (with no CCC) and ATI tray tools from ATI's site.
 
I would have completely removed the drivers and than reinstall... Not just swap it and think the drivers somehow work since they're both radeons...

If that didn't work I would have installed windows... So much easier when you have 2 partitions... You can always save an image of your old setup...
 
I just have my own unattened installed. Its not a problem to reinstall windows. Plus everything is always up to date.
When I used the new x850xt I did a reformat on the drive.
 
Scotch77 said:
I just have my own unattened installed. Its not a problem to reinstall windows. Plus everything is always up to date.
When I used the new x850xt I did a reformat on the drive.
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That is quite strange...
:confused:

Perhaps you can try another or a 7600GT...
 
well I plan on it.


does the 7600Gs like you mentioned offer better performance over the 6800 series.
 
Scotch77 said:
well I plan on it.


does the 7600Gs like you mentioned offer better performance over the 6800 series.
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Don't get the 7600GS.. It's a capable card but I think it falls a little short to the 6800GS or GT... Can game 1024x768 if you overclock it...

Might as well just get the 7600GT for few $$ more and you can game 1280x1024 or the WS variety 1440x900
 
I was more than able to play games like Cs:s and HL2 at 16x12 with the x850XT.


should I be looking at the ati side of things also.
 
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