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I'm wondering with the last 5 BIOS patches if that improves anything? My only option to upgrade would be the 14900k. Since buying the 285K would be kinda silly for me anyway.
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This my approach. I have a 13700k and 14700K and have the latest bios running both with no issues. Both are fairly new and are used sparingly.What cpu are you on now? All of the 13xxx and 14xxx chips got a 2 year warranty extension to 5 years total. If you're on 13xxx, going 14th gen is pointless. Apply the fixes and enjoy, if it dies rma it.
The i5 13600K/14600K will be safer than the i7's and i9's since the default voltages don't go over 1.35V's. Someone would have to aggressively overclock to degrade it, but it's pretty silly since default voltage overclocks can get 5.4GHz all-core, with 5.7GHz 2-core.I'm seeing a lot of 13 and 14th gen CPU/mobo combos for sale - I'd like to buy one (or a new combo) but I don't know what to worry about and what to avoid.
I'm on a 11900k and the CPU charts don't even include my CPU anymore. It's actually fine for me, but I need to build one of the kids a new system so I'm planning on giving the 11900k to my older kid and his 8700k to the youngest kid.
Was leaning toward a 9800x3D but they are too hard to find and I'm just more comfortable with Intel platforms.
Thanks, but I'm looking to go with a top end CPU - I'd be OK with a 14900k if there was a way to undervolt it with minimal performance loss and longevity in mind. I'd actually prefer it since heat is a major issue in my office and I recently tweaked my 3090/11900k to ease up a bit.The i5 13600K/14600K will be safer than the i7's and i9's since the default voltages don't go over 1.35V's. Someone would have to aggressively overclock to degrade it, but it's pretty silly since default voltage overclocks can get 5.4GHz all-core, with 5.7GHz 2-core.
You could undervolt it, but you'd have to tweak the frequencies lower. You could also just get a 14900T if you wanted lower power draw and temps, and not have to worry about undervolting and tweaking, as it's a 35W TDP CPU. You lose about 50% performance over the 14900K, though.Thanks, but I'm looking to go with a top end CPU - I'd be OK with a 14900k if there was a way to undervolt it with minimal performance loss and longevity in mind. I'd actually prefer it since heat is a major issue in my office and I recently tweaked my 3090/11900k to ease up a bit.
My Microcenter has 25+ in stock and its been that way all week, FWIW.Was leaning toward a 9800x3D but they are too hard to find and I'm just more comfortable with Intel platforms.
Yeah, not appealing for a high end gaming rig.You could undervolt it, but you'd have to tweak the frequencies lower. You could also just get a 14900T if you wanted lower power draw and temps, and not have to worry about undervolting and tweaking, as it's a 35W TDP CPU. You lose about 50% performance over the 14900K, though.
Load up a game that compiles shaders at the start. Apparently UE5 games are notoriously famous for sussing out 13th/14th gen instability. It's not a definitive test, but if it crashes during the compile it's a dead giveaway that the CPU has already degraded.I got an open box, clearly used 14900K at Micro Center for like $345, because I clearly don't mind rolling the dice with MC's return policy.
Went straight into a W680-ACE board with the latest microcode already installed, and I'm not noticing any signs of instability even under stress testing. If anyone's got a better idea than passing half an hour of Cinebench or running certain game benchmarks (MH Wilds being the most recent) and still not getting so much as one WHEA error, I'm all ears.
All in all, I don't really regret it, even if the incentive was more to move my 12700K back to the Z690 board I took out of my main build so my bro has something better to use than an old 7700K or an 11900, while still retaining high clock speeds because W680 doesn't permit CPU overclocking (and overclocking Raptor Lake has already proven to be a stupid idea with how these things are pushed to their limits from the factory).
Looks like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 decided to compile shaders again, even though I already gave it a test run with the 12700K beforehand - but the compile time seemed noticeably shorter than what I remembered.Load up a game that compiles shaders at the start. Apparently UE5 games are notoriously famous for sussing out 13th/14th gen instability. It's not a definitive test, but if it crashes during the compile it's a dead giveaway that the CPU has already degraded.
Same here. I locked all the cores at x55 (no more two cores boosting) and for undervolt. I used AC_LL/DC_LL to control UV. I set AC_LL at 0.12 and DC_LL 0.98 (to closer CPU VIDs for reading) with LLC4 mode, ICCMAX 375A, PL1/PL2 set to 253W, 88C temp limit , and IA VR at 1.450v and I also never updated my BIOS to latest BIOS. ASUS Strix Z690 D4 WIFI mobo with a 13900K.i have mine running locked cores and locked voltage ever since new... mever flashed the bios 5.8/4.8/5.0 1.375v
LOL I'm running an LLC 8 with 110 c. Direct die helpsSame here. I locked all the cores at x55 (no more two cores boosting) and for undervolt. I used AC_LL/DC_LL to control UV. I set AC_LL at 0.12 and DC_LL 0.98 (to closer CPU VIDs for reading) with LLC4 mode, ICCMAX 375A, PL1/PL2 set to 253W, 88C temp limit , and IA VR at 1.450v and I also never updated my BIOS to latest BIOS. ASUS Strix Z690 D4 WIFI mobo with a 13900K.
You got to lock those cores down and tune the voltage manuallyMy 13700K has problems it crashes games all the time now so I put my 12700K back in the CPU would freak out and start spinning the CPU fan at very undemanding tasks.
I put my 12700k tested Borderlands 4 and Atomfall along with Chronos I can live with it for a while. Temps are in the 50s 60s highs 75s.
Ah I see. Also by the way, I didn't tuned my cpu properly when I got it new and used it for a like one year and a half or something until I forced myself to learn how to tune it included tuning ram as well by learning stuff from OCN and some info on my research. But my CPU is still doing fine so far.LOL I'm running an LLC 8 with 110 c. Direct die helps
You probably could replace your CPU with a new 14900K and then tune it properly. But it's up to you. 285K isn't exactly a bad cpu to buy only if you know how to tune it especially with D2D clock and it works better when you tune the RAM to OC. But I know tuning isn't for everyone. If you have time and patience to tune it.Its just defective
Rma to Intel.Its just defective
I am also running RPL i9 (13900KF) without bios updates and it is running fine.I'm using a 14900k without issues so far. In fact I never updated to the n ew bios with changes to the voltage etc etc. I run it stock and it's been fine.
Your stock voltage is already too high (for me) keep it under 1.3v to be really safe from any degredation.View attachment 785452
It's a keeper so far I got it up to 74c in Intel XTU for 2 minutes see what happens in Summertime I might have to put my Noctua G2 back on. I have my Noctua U12A now cooling it.
I can't believe all the Cores I have now 28!!!! Nova Lake is going to be Insane with 52 cores. No weird eyestrain like with my launch 13700KF which I got free from Amazon basically at launch because Amazon lost my 13700K. So if you look for a chip made in Israel or IL it's a good chip.
I do have SVID Behavior in Ai-Tweaker on ASUS on Typical that makes all the difference with these chips.
Do you know how I go about that a video or something?Your stock voltage is already too high (for me) keep it under 1.3v to be really safe from any degredation.
Just look around. I typically recommend SkatterBencher, since they're extreme overclockers that blog their overclock settings. Depending on your motherboard manufacturer (ASUS, AsRock, Gigabyte, MSI, etc.), overclock settings will be named slightly different. Also, be reasonable with your overclocks and voltages, those skatterbenches are typically going for the highest overclocks, not 24/7 stability and longevity.Do you know how I go about that a video or something?