DukenukemX
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This happened to SoundStorm for Nvidia Nforce 2 chipsets as there were two DAC choices and nearly everyone went with the cheaper and of course massively worse one. SoundStorm was such a good sound chip that going after the digital output was well worth it. It's a reminder that motherboard manufacturers will always put the cheapest crap with good sound chips.I'll just add that, with the onboards, like Realtek, I usually don't focus as much on which specific Realtek they use, but how it's implemented on the motherboard (which is what ends up being the sound). The Realtek itself only does basic amplification, so you still need an op-amp on the mobo if you want to drive headphones really well.
Sooo, if they take an ALC1220 or an 892, they still have to design the PCB around it, make sure it's getting nice clean power for both the digital and analog side, couple it with the right op-amp, and make sure the op-amp also has everything setup right.
That's both difficult and gets expensive really fast - quality capacitors, inductors, copper, all that passive stuff does affect the price of the mobo. Thus, you can mess up even the best-performing onboard codec just fine, or make a mid-line codec sound quite pleasant.
Assuming you can get the equalizer. In some cases you need to get it from Microsoft app store. I've never gotten the equalizer from the app store. MSI has been pretty good at providing drivers that come with all the Realtek stuff.Last 10 years or so I've bought motherboards with the upgraded/isolated audio. Realtek offers a software based equalizer for their audio chips and I've been very happy with it. I love the "Powerful" setting. Makes a massive upgrade over the default install which has no equalizer settings applied.
Pipewire is standard in most distros now. Not sure which distro uses PulseAudio?I'm a Linux user. Linux audio is heavily influenced by core audio. Linux ALSA rivals core audio in quality and latnecy, though it has (sever) limitations which require the use of a sound server like pipewire for general use.
I've had a much better experience with sound cards in Linux than Windows. Just install Easy Effects and you get a very powerful equalizer. I also use QasMixer because whatever comes with KDE Plasma just isn't powerful enough to control my soundcard. It's a breath of fresh air knowing that I can find my audio settings quickly and not have to use Google to figure out how to find them in Windows 11.Apple has the advantage of being 100% in control of their stack. All users have low latency low level audio access. Linux has been constantly improving sound systems. The pipewire server does a great job for every day things. Still end up needing ALSA/Jack to handle actual low latency stuff. It is superior to the current janky windows setup with ASIO... though inferior to the intergrated full low level stack that Apple provides with core audio. Can't wait to see how Microsoft screws things up with their new audio drivers. On the other hand if it does just work with hardware as Qcom/Yamaha are pushing for it might make windows ARM devices perhaps half way decent for pro audio. Might end up being a shame if they never push the improved driver to windows classic. (x86) lol [in all seriousness ARM hardware is perfect for audio production]