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Am I the only one not caring about new phones anymore?

Domingo said:
With Moto, are they still years behind on updates?
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Last I heard they're still pathetic in that area: substandard amount of OS version updates, substandard length for which they promise updates (2 years?), as someone else mentioned, security updates are much less common than with, say, Samsung, etc.
 
1_rick said:
Last I heard they're still pathetic in that area: substandard amount of OS version updates, substandard length for which they promise updates (2 years?), as someone else mentioned, security updates are much less common than with, say, Samsung, etc.
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Wack. It such a shame because I'd love an alternative to the Pixel phones. I don't expect miracles, but they're running one of the most vanilla implementations of Android out there. At this point I'm resigned to going back to Apple if Google ever stops making their own phones.
 
faster7 said:
They've had quite a few phones shipping with Android 15 for a while now but I didn't note when the first was, compared to when 15 released.

None on 16 yet but it's pretty fresh, are the Galazy Z's the only ones shipped with it so far? I'll try to watch when the first Motorola gets shipped with 16.
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Samsung was the first out of the gate with Android 16, which is wild if you remember the days when Samsung was often months behind and rarely offered more than a couple of years of support. Now, you could install it first on a Pixel, but you won't see even Google shipping it out-of-the-box until the Pixel 10s arrive this month.

Motorola is considerably better than it has been, but it's still behind the Android pack relative to Google, Samsung, and a few other big brands.
 
Domingo said:
Wack. It such a shame because I'd love an alternative to the Pixel phones. I don't expect miracles, but they're running one of the most vanilla implementations of Android out there. At this point I'm resigned to going back to Apple if Google ever stops making their own phones.
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I don't get the Samsung hate--in general, not talking about you. I find the modern Samsungs, at least the ones that aren't at the bottom of the pile, to be pretty responsive, and I figure they're less likely to be nefarious in slurping up my data. Sure, I wish we had more options. I imported a Mi Mix 2 and it was awesome; basically the same specs as that years Galaxy S, but quite a bit cheaper. The only weird thing was the unusual camera placement at the bottom left. And I had a G5S Plus, and it was pretty nice, except it was very lower-midrange and not very performant, and I didn't like the garbage-tier update policy. I might even have it somewhere in a box. Beyond that, I don't know much about other brands, since you don't see them much in the US. Blu's phones are almost all low to low-middle, with 4 or 8 little cores and usually no big ones, and TCL seems to be mostly low to mid-range too.
 
Aurelius said:
Samsung was the first out of the gate with Android 16, which is wild if you remember the days when Samsung was often months behind and rarely offered more than a couple of years of support. Now, you could install it first on a Pixel, but you won't see even Google shipping it out-of-the-box until the Pixel 10s arrive this month.
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My Nothing 1 was great before the company folded. It got an Android major version update (10?) the day it was released, before even the Pixels had it.
 
1_rick said:
My Nothing 1 was great before the company folded. It got an Android major version update (10?) the day it was released, before even the Pixels had it.
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Do you mean Essential? Nothing is very much around! (And bought Essential for the name)
 
1_rick said:
Oh, yeah, totally the Essential.
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That's alright — I had an Essential phone at the time, too, and it was good for the time. With that said, I'm glad Nothing swooped in for multiple reasons, even if it doesn't have a Pixel-level update strategy. The folks complaining that new phones aren't exciting probably haven't tried one — not that Nothing has top-tier specs, but its devices often look and feel special.
 
1_rick said:
I don't get the Samsung hate--in general, not talking about you. I find the modern Samsungs, at least the ones that aren't at the bottom of the pile, to be pretty responsive, and I figure they're less likely to be nefarious in slurping up my data. Sure, I wish we had more options. I imported a Mi Mix 2 and it was awesome; basically the same specs as that years Galaxy S, but quite a bit cheaper. The only weird thing was the unusual camera placement at the bottom left. And I had a G5S Plus, and it was pretty nice, except it was very lower-midrange and not very performant, and I didn't like the garbage-tier update policy. I might even have it somewhere in a box. Beyond that, I don't know much about other brands, since you don't see them much in the US. Blu's phones are almost all low to low-middle, with 4 or 8 little cores and usually no big ones, and TCL seems to be mostly low to mid-range too.
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In my case, I have 0 issues with Samsung hardware, it's the software I despise. OneUI is fine, but I can't stand all of their bundled apps that overwrite Google's core ones. Messages, Contacts, Email, Dialer, Browser, etc. They're ugly as hell, they're based on older versions of Google's own apps, they don't follow normal UI/UX rules, and you're stuck with 'em. Why? Just so they can shoehorn the option for someone to use a Samsung account, too. Yeah, you can usually install alternatives, but their versions love to keep making themselves the defaults or they'll randomly start opening links in other apps. You can push them off into a dark corner of your device, hide them, disable most of them, etc. but they're still there and taking up almost 10GB of space. They even have their own store needed to update them. If your phone or tablet has any kind of unique hardware, there's a strong chance you might have to use them, too. Whichever team handles OneUI is doing a fine job, but their core app team has 0 aesthetic design background.
 
Domingo said:
In my case, I have 0 issues with Samsung hardware, it's the software I despise.
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OK, fair enough, and I totally understand that, but the common ones: phone dialer, messages, etc., are easy enough to swap back the Google versions, at least, and that's what I usually do. The one actual problem I had in that regard with my Latin American A56 is that I can't use Samsung Pay...but it wasn't a show stopper for me.

I haven't had a problem with them pushing themselves back into being the defaults that I recall (and the core apps, the Google versions have always been installed, so I haven't had to go download them), but one thing that *does* annoy me is

Domingo said:
They even have their own store needed to update them.
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that the Samsung Store nags me to install updates to Firefox instead of letting them get auto-updated by Google without any action on my part. Oddly, I haven't seen that on my A56, so maybe them doing that was a US version thing?
 
My Samsung Galaxy Z TriFold

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Still on s20 5g been a good phone hardware wise it's kept up. Micro SD slot and 12gb of ram. Bought for $400 new 5 years ago, I'm ready for pixel 10 pro XL for $500
 
Rattle said:
Still on s20 5g been a good phone hardware wise it's kept up. Micro SD slot and 12gb of ram. Bought for $400 new 5 years ago, I'm ready for pixel 10 pro XL for $500
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wait for 11.…. unless you get a smoking deal on the 10XL
 
Rattle said:
Still on s20 5g been a good phone hardware wise it's kept up. Micro SD slot and 12gb of ram. Bought for $400 new 5 years ago, I'm ready for pixel 10 pro XL for $500
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I'm in the same boat with the S20 FE 5G UW but I only have 6GB of RAM and I'm still doing good.
I've thought about getting a S24 my cousin has for $600, but I'm not sure I really "need" an upgrade.
 
I went from an S22 Ultra to an A56. I bought the Latin American version at Best Buy for $100 off the price of the US version...and it had 8/256 instead of the 6/128 we got.

I lose DeX and a few other features, including the flash being a bit slower, but it's actually a really good phone, and has a pretty solid metal frame, and I saved a few hundred bucks.
 
Bought my Wife and I S24Ultra's when they came out, plan to keep them at least through when no more security patches are offered, and likely, past then as well based on history of phones. The phones are absolute beasts and meet our needs perfectly.
 
In October I finally broke down on a "any device" trade in and moved from Pixel 3a XL for a Moto G 2025. Would have preferred more ram but was happy it still has a microSD card.

Motorola with their announced GrapheneOS partnership----gives me an idea what my next move will be.
 
Anyone here running GrapheneOS? What do you guys think about it? I am phone ignorant.
 
mullet said:
We shall see what motorola brings next year.
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The 2025 Edge is awesome. I bought my wife one and it's phenomenal. Feels so light and the camera is killer with triple optical zoom telephoto lens. Also the battery lasts so long. She absolutely loves it and in comparison to her old S21ultra she's never going back to Samsung.
 
III_Slyflyer_III said:
Bought my Wife and I S24Ultra's when they came out, plan to keep them at least through when no more security patches are offered, and likely, past then as well based on history of phones. The phones are absolute beasts and meet our needs perfectly.
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Just replaced my wife's S23 Ultra with a Zfold 7 last week. She loves everything about it, except for the lack of an S-pen.
I'm typing this on my S23 Ultra and my S26 Ultra is currently "out for delivery".

Just paid the last of the 23's off 2 months ago, and got really good deals on these (dropping our total monthly bill by $45
 
Been running my 17 PM for a few days now.

Love the battery, and porn looks excellent 👌
 
1_rick said:
They need to bring a longer update widow.
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This is one of the biggest reasons I didn't seriously look into Motorola phones when I got new ones last year. The phones replaced were Moto G Power 2020 models. They weren't exactly fast when we got them but they were good phones. After more than five years they were getting super slow although they still worked fine and the batteries were still good. Sadly, Motorola's midrange phones in five years didn't really see any improvements and in some cases were worse in specs than the 2020 G Power. I saw no reason to go with a side grade of a five year old phone despite having like the five year old phone a lot.

They ended up being replaced with Samsung Galaxy S24. Despite having a battery of 20% less capacity the S24 lasts as long as the G Power 2020 did in its prime with the same usage pattern all while being a hell of a lot faster. The SD card slot and 3.5mm jack were lost, though, and I really hate the loss of the jack. A converter was purchased but we'll see how long that thing lasts. None of those things seem to last very long.

I haven't had any excitement about new phones in years. My needs are met with low to medium range phones as long as battery life is good and I get updates. Phone replacement is usually on a need only basis. I expect the S24 to last at least several years and won't think much about phones until a replacement is required.

edit: Heh, this will give you an idea of how often I look up anything related to phones. I meant to say the replacement phones are S25.
 
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I played some Wreckfest on my phone.. outside of the screen size since I am not used to phone gaming anymore.. it was pretty impressive.
 
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I play absolutely no games on my phone. I use it for YouTube phone calls texting and general web usage. The fact that my s20 ultra is still viable today even more so it's still powerful I upgraded to an s24 and there's absolutely no reason for it. The phones made now are so powerful they will last at least 5 to 8 years even more. There's just no need. Why would you upgrade something that doesn't need to be upgraded? So you could Flex? The actual processing power and opening s*** is so fast now there's literally no need to upgrade every year.
 
jarablue said:
The phones made now are so powerful they will last at least 5 to 8 years even more.
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That's not universally true. My A35 lost a lot of performance when I upgraded to Android 16. Portable devices have a long history of getting gimped by OS upgrades, even high-end ones like my old iPaq hx4705.
 
If you can make it 4 or 5 generations with your phone intact, you are doing alright. By then you would have had a new battery installed, or the one you would be using at that point would be ultra shitty.
 
My 2000 s20 ultra is still going strong to this day. No battery swaps. Its all hype.
 
Do you actually use your phone though? Sounds like not for anything more than a phone. No problem with that, but a lot of people use their phones like a computer.
 
jarablue said:
My 2000 s20 ultra is still going strong to this day. No battery swaps. Its all hype.
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It's more than hype, but it depends on the person.

If you just use your phone to run a few essential apps, browse the web and take the occasinonal snapshot, then you're in a great spot.

But I'll use myself as an example of what power users want. I work my phone hard both personally and professionally. I've handled vital work sitting at airport gates, and taken pro-level photos at events. I need my phone to handle driving directions for family trips as well as significant social media use... and yes, gaming now and then. My most cherished pictures (including of my then-newborn child) were taken with my phone. Performance, camera quality, and battery life matter every day.

As such, it's worthwhile for me to upgrade every few years. I don't expect everyone to share my level of interest, but I know there are others like me.
 
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