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Is Microsoft Fixing Windows 11 or Making It Worse?

Brother Speed, proselytizing isn't my goal, and I don't care at all about Linux newcomers. I simply reflected 2 minor things that I even said I fixed somewhat easily.

You hyperfocused on the 2 minor issues, and ignored the elephant in the room, which is application support. Windows on Snapdragon sucks for this exact same reason.

I'll indulge a lit bit in the newcomer topic. Most Linux newcomers are probably Steam Deck owners, or SteamOS on other handhelds. Another big group is people who don't wanna use unsupported older Windows on old devices. First one is totally dependent on Valve, the latter group doesn't allow for a funding model for proper support. Also, it seems like a lot of people are ditching old computers, and going phone only. I'd like to see Linux succeeding on laptops, but Snapdragon has an exclusive agreement with Microsoft. New Intel chips are pretty good, but they're very expensive. The iGPU can handle Cyberpunk on low settings. I wonder how hard it'd be to get Proton working with Panther Lake. I guess it's somewhat justified to drop $2,000 on a laptop that doubles as a Steam Deck?
 
stuffmonger said:
You hyperfocused on the 2 minor issues, and ignored the elephant in the room, which is application support. Windows on Snapdragon sucks for this exact same reason.
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I didn't hyperfocus on anything, I covered all issues listed by yourself and others, most of which are results of poor distro selection. However if you need Solidworks, then by all means use the OS that best suits your use case. I'm not sure why you tried Linux considering Solidworks.

In relation to gaming, the only titles that don't work are those requiring Javelin or Vanguard/Riccohet rootkit anticheat, and personally I wouldn't install such implementations even if I was running Windows. I game under Linux and ~98% of all my games run perfectly. However, I digress and don't want to drag things off topic, there was simply a little hyperbole regarding Linux that needed to be addressed.

EDIT: Proton would work with Panther Lake, the question is: are Intel's drivers at a point whereby they're performant now? They seem to have ongoing issues under Windows let alone Linux.
 
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Mazzspeed did you give up on the 2% of games, or dual boot to play them? What kinda issue was it? Stutters?
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There was only two games (from memory) that I had to give up, both ran better under Linux than they did under Windows until EA thought it was appropriate to add kernel level anti cheat to games that were (at the time) eight to nine years old with pretty much no in game economies to support - One game was Battlefield 1, the other was Battlefield V. Thankfully I can still play Battlefield 4, for some obscure reason BF3 & BF4 flew under the radar.

In terms of performance, my system is very well optimized, I don't just run hardware out the box and think everything will be right. I'm getting performance that's basically in line with Windows, if not slightly better in certain cases. I certainly never feel like I'm lacking performance, and I like RT as well as PB RT using DLSS as well as RR and FG at times where needed.

I don't dual boot. I haven't used Windows on my own PC since 2013, and I haven't missed it in the slightest - I don't hate Windows, I just have no need for it and by far prefer the OS of my choosing. Furthermore, while I avoid distro's based on Fedora for the reasons you experienced - as long as I'm running the latest KDE DE complete with a few of my own customization's, the distro really doesn't matter, I'm happy and things just work.
 
Mazzspeed said:
There was only two games (from memory) that I had to give up, both ran better under Linux than they did under Windows until EA thought it was appropriate to add kernel level anti cheat to games that were (at the time) eight to nine years old with pretty much no in game economies to support - One game was Battlefield 1, the other was Battlefield V. Thankfully I can still play Battlefield 4, for some obscure reason BF3 & BF4 flew under the radar.

In terms of performance, my system is very well optimized, I don't just run hardware out the box and think everything will be right. I'm getting performance that's basically in line with Windows, if not slightly better in certain cases. I certainly never feel like I'm lacking performance, and I like RT as well as PB RT using DLSS as well as RR and FG at times where needed.

I don't dual boot. I haven't used Windows on my own PC since 2013, and I haven't missed it in the slightest - I don't hate Windows, I just have no need for it and by far prefer the OS of my choosing. Furthermore, while I avoid distro's based on Fedora for the reasons you experienced - as long as I'm running the latest KDE DE complete with a few of my own customization's, the distro really doesn't matter, I'm happy and things just work.
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So you've given up Battlefield 1 and 5, because you like KDE?
If Windows had a DE exactly like KDE, would you choose it?
 
stuffmonger said:
So you've given up Battlefield 1 and 5, because you like KDE?
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No, I gave up Windows because I by far prefer Linux. I barely batted an eyelid when EA decided 8 - 9yo games suddenly needed kernel level anticheat.

stuffmonger said:
If Windows had a DE exactly like KDE, would you choose it?
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Nope. When I stated I prefer the latest version of Plasma, I was talking in the context of Linux - Essentially I believe Gnome lags behind Plasma. I don't use Windows because it offers me nothing that I need, I certainly don't sit here wishing I was running Windows.

Essentially, everything I need, including most of my games, run under Linux just as well as they run under Windows. If you consider Steam, Linux is the second most popular OS on the platform, with vastly more native as well as Proton compatible titles in comparison to MacOS - Linux is essentially Win32 compatible.
 
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You mean the kernel?
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Lets not get into semantics here. I prefer Linux overall, I prefer the DE and therefore the GUI, I prefer the file manager (Dolphin), I prefer the implementation of terminal (the CLI), I prefer by far the updating process, I prefer the freedom and level of customization, and as stated I don't sit here wishing I was running Windows.

I turn PC on or wake PC from sleep, PC goes burrr, I get things done and game in my downtime.

stuffmonger said:
That counts Steam Deck's SteamOS?
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The latest Steam Survey shows SteamOS sitting at 0.93%, however Arch based distro's make up 0.99%. SteamOS is a stepping stone encouraging users to switch to Linux on their desktop, this is the Steam Deck's purpose, and the evidence is under the Steam survey - CachyOS alone increased by 0.23% compared to the month prior.

What, exactly, are you looking for in asking these questions?
 
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For starters it's unintuitive. Second, too much cli, I can't remember the command from one config to another. Thirdly, too damned much security, all of my networking is local so I don't need any damned security. and last but not least, the vast majority of howtos on the web are outdated, don't work or are just plain wrong. I did manage to find a relatively easy way to connect to a Windows share using Nemo connect to server but it remembers nothing so it's a PITA if I have to connect more than twice. As far as connecting Linux to Linux, that's where it really sucks. I have never been able to get it to work and gave up in disgust a long time ago.
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Curious what you are doing?

Mint, CachyOS, you install, done, system gets an IP.. connect to a windows share, sure, map a drive can be a pain vs just browsing a network like windows and connecting, but a quick CLI command for an SMB share:
sudo mount -t cifs -o username= and off you go, and if you want it to auto-mount at login you configure it once and done?

Too much security in what sense? Windows default has the firewall on, linux you can use a GUI to turn the firewall on or off, and by default if it is on, it only block inbound connections, all outbound are allowed? did you perhaps install a locked down kernel version vs the standard one?
 
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