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I think it's the same people who ask for a "bloat free Windows" even though that stuff can be easily disabled too within 5 to 10 minutes of installing it. Maybe that's the market Brave is after?
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I read it as: "We plan on adding data harvesting to the free tier of our Brave browser for machine learning purposes, so if privacy is important to you we now have a super awesome paid variant of our browser called Origin"...
That's literally not what they're saying.
That's not what they're saying...Yet. They've got to apply lube first.
You must have selective memory ... because Mozilla has done some pretty shady things over the years.
And yet, they've done nothing as shady as stuffing privacy focused features behind a paywall.
Librewolf. There are so many alternatives to web browsers that paying for a stripped down version is asinine. There's even a script that does this to Brave itself. Brave Origin is for people who don't know.
It's for people who want to support the company and no other reason. It would only be asinine if they were paywalling features that the normal browser didn't have. But they aren't. This is just a donation browser. Brave and Firefox can both be easily stripped of nonsense. I don't like LibreWolf because I can't sync it to my phone. You can make the normal Firefox the same as LibreWolf quite quickly. I didn't know there was a Brave debloater. I already made one myself recently with AI.
You fundamentally have no idea what you're talking about. There isn't anything in this donation version that isn't in the normal version. They have exactly the same privacy features. One is just more slim and doesn't require any extra features to be disabled ... which again ... can be disabled in the normal version. Crypto isn't even on by default it has to be enabled. So even if you just used Brave as is, it's fine.
And yet, fundamentally, we have this quote:
All things that you can turn off in the standard browser. I have them turned off right now.
You're just talking out of your ass. Any "data harvesting" is done to improve the browser. They don't sell data to third parties. 80% of Mozilla's funding still comes from Google, which is still concerning. They're supposed to be the last bastion of hope for a Chromium alternative browser and yet they wouldn't exist without Google. And they've had plenty of actual data harvesting scandals in the last few years. Such as the Mr Robot spyware and feeding data to Meta / Facebook by default. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. They even made a statement about de-platforming people that don't follow their shitty ideologies, which received a ton of backlash. They've also rewritten their ToS many times, including recently, and have been called out for their hypocrisy.
Yes I know. I already stated that above.Linux users get Origin for free as we're awesome.
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That has literally nothing to do with what I said. 80% of their funding comes from Google. Changing the search engine doesn't change that.
I'm relaxed. I'm just pointing out the nonsense you're spouting.
This, it takes like 1 minute after a clean install to turn that off....so now they want people to pay for a version where it is off, or not included at all....
Yep, they aren't a charity.
These claims are always questionable..
Neither company could. That's why this entire argument is silly.
Thank you for sharing with us that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Well he does.
Brave Shields blocks ads, trackers, fingerprinting, and cross-site cookies by default. No extensions are needed ... and there's no about:config that needs tweaking. The "bloatware" you're referring to (Rewards, AI, Wallet) are all opt-in features. They don't even activate unless you enable them. Calling a browser "privacy invasive" because it offers optional opt-in features is nonsense when Firefox has telemetry, Sponsored Suggestions, and Sponsored Shortcuts, etc. all enabled by default, sharing interaction data with advertising partners unless you dig through settings to disable them. And that's before we get to the fact that Firefox just deleted its "we never sell your data" promise while adding Terms of Use that grant Mozilla a "nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license" to use whatever you input into Firefox. They also took down this lovely deplatforming blog post which was utter shite: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/
The only red herring here is the undeniable fact that you just can't bring yourself to cut the cord on a browser based on Chromium. Meanwhile I've been using FF for about 15 years now full time with little to no issues and absolute privacy with no ads, and setting FF up for such privacy was by no means rocket science - a comment that involves no gaslighting whatsoever.
You've completely abandoned your original claim. This started with you calling Brave "privacy invasive bloatware" and saying Firefox is a few simple steps for privacy. Now you're pivoting to personal anecdotes and engine diversity because you can't defend either point.
Not at all. This was my original claim:
You can keep moving the goal posts, but it reminds me why I stopped reading your comments.
I'm glad you stopped reading my comments, I'm kinda tired of arguing with those committed to misunderstanding me.