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LG 48C6 OLED48C6PUA evo AI C6 4K Smart TV 2026
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There is also phosphorescent blue OLED due out at some point. Samsung's glasses free 3d tech, if it ends up being quality and worthwhile, might end up available in a large format screen or large ultrawide screen by then too. Maybe those + HDMI 2.2 (and higher hz 4k, 4k+) by 2028.
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Phosphorescent blue OLED (Blue PHOLED) technology is expected to arrive in gaming TVs between 2027 and 2029. While mass production and commercialization for small/medium devices (like tablets and monitors) are actively rolling out, expanding this to full-sized living room gaming displays requires overcoming massive manufacturing hurdles. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Why the Wait?
What to Expect
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Phosphorescent blue OLED (Blue PHOLED) technology is expected to arrive in gaming TVs between 2027 and 2029. While mass production and commercialization for small/medium devices (like tablets and monitors) are actively rolling out, expanding this to full-sized living room gaming displays requires overcoming massive manufacturing hurdles. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Why the Wait?
- The "Dream" Upgrade: Current OLEDs use a fluorescent blue layer that wastes about 75% of its energy as heat, limiting peak brightness and increasing burn-in risk. Blue PHOLED converts nearly 100% of electrical energy into light, massively improving energy efficiency and brightness while slashing burn-in risks.
- **Lifespan Hurdles:**Historically, blue phosphorescent materials have degraded much faster than red or green. Engineers have only recently perfected the hybrid tandem structures needed to make it viable for commercial manufacturing. [1, 2, 3, 4]
What to Expect
- Initial Rollout (2025–2026): The technology is debuting in smaller form factors first. Companies like LG Display and Universal Display Corporation (UDC) are primarily focusing on high-end mobile and IT screens before scaling up to massive TV panels.
- Premium Gaming TVs (2027+): When Blue PHOLED does hit large screens, it will likely launch in flagship, premium-tier sets first—such as LG's "G-Series" (or higher) or Samsung’s top-end QD-OLED lines. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
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I think TV manufacturers are in no hurry to bring in HDMI 2.2 when there's zero devices supporting it.
HDMI 2.1 was released in late 2017, and it took until 2020's Nvidia RTX 30 series to come out with HDMI 2.1 support.
DP 2.1 came out in late 2022 and it took Nvidia until 2025 RTX 50 series to put it on their GPU lineup.
With Nvidia's current AI push, I'd wager they have even less interest in adding these newer standards.
Realistically we might have to wait until next gen consoles for HDMI 2.2 to become a thing, unless those have been locked in already which means HDMI 2.1.
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Will have to see. Good point about Nvidia GPU end of the equation, but perhaps 80gbps/ubhr20 to HDMI 2.2 adapter for 80 out of 96 might work since both standards would have high bandwidth.
If it does show up on tvs, it might only be on expensive top tier sets whenever that is, too.
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Samsung's glasses free 3d tech might also benefit (tracking wise and vs blur) from higher hz, though it's geared for direct viewing monitor style scenarios not side viewing multi viewer living room scenarios, so not a big market for that in tvs either I guess, unless it (glasses free 3d) becomes a must have for console players if the 3d comes to tvs at some point. Probably not going to due to viewing distance requirements though.
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Samsung's glasses-free 3D (found on monitors like the Odyssey 3D) works by using built-in eye-tracking cameras and a special lenticular lens overlay. The cameras map your eyes and head in real time, allowing the lens to bend and direct light rays separately to your left and right eyes to create depth. [1, 2]
Does it need high Hz?
Yes, high refresh rates are highly recommended for this technology, though not required for the basic effect. [1]
- Why it needs high Hz: Because the lenticular 3D effect creates a tiny "sweet spot" for your eyes, the monitor must continually re-calculate depth and perspective as you move your head. A high refresh rate (such as 165Hz to 330Hz) ensures that the tracking, AI processing, and depth adjustments happen instantly without lag or motion blur.
- No penalty to refresh rate: Unlike older 3D televisions that cut your frame rate in half to display 3D, next-generation monitors like the Samsung Odyssey 3D let you enjoy the full 165Hz+ refresh rate in 3D mode. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
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Still holding some hope for a modern tandem OLED ark style display and/or other flagship large format Samsung ultrawide OLED at some point in the next 3 years, with 80gbps display port, and 3d would be even better. Phosphorescent blue would be great, too, if possible.
Seems a few years out yet:
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No curved possible apparently (??), but they will likely make large format glasses-free 3d OLED screens at some point.. If the oled 3d is great, it's immersion or overall experience may exceed that of a curved screen. curious what the hdr output of their oled 3d screens will be. A larger screen should work as long as you sit the same relative distance from it that you would a smaller screen , viewing angle wise.
I'm definitely interested in checking that glasses-free 3d out on a larger oled screen in the years ahead, even if the Hz is 240Hz or less and the price is premium (if the 3d ends up worth it).
Until then I'll prob get a c6 or similar by year end 2026.
Seems a few years out yet:
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No curved possible apparently (??), but they will likely make large format glasses-free 3d OLED screens at some point.. If the oled 3d is great, it's immersion or overall experience may exceed that of a curved screen. curious what the hdr output of their oled 3d screens will be. A larger screen should work as long as you sit the same relative distance from it that you would a smaller screen , viewing angle wise.
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I'm definitely interested in checking that glasses-free 3d out on a larger oled screen in the years ahead, even if the Hz is 240Hz or less and the price is premium (if the 3d ends up worth it).
Until then I'll prob get a c6 or similar by year end 2026.
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It should be fixable because this is not a bandwidth problem. My 4K 240Hz monitor is pushing even more bandwidth off DP 1.4 vs the G6 pushing 4K 165Hz off HDMI 2.1 and my monitor does not have fudged colors as a result. My S95F also does not have fudged colors due to running DSC at 165Hz (although it does have other annoying issues that could be DSC related). I also wouldn't count on HDMI 2.2 TV's in 2027 for sure, and possibly even 2028. I think 2029 is the EARLIEST when we can expect HDMI 2.2 TVs which means 2029 will also be the earliest we can expect 240Hz TVs.
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I guess curved glasses-free 3d OLED is theoretically possible, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd think it would be easier if sitting at the center of curvature where all of the pixels point directly at you.
This part is not necessarily true if sitting at the center of curvature, since at the center of curvature , all pixels could remain on-axis, pointed directly at you.
"A curve physically bends the pixels toward or away from the viewer, changing the angle of the light."
I'll stop focusing talking 3d in this thread since it's a C6 thread though.
This part is not necessarily true if sitting at the center of curvature, since at the center of curvature , all pixels could remain on-axis, pointed directly at you.
"A curve physically bends the pixels toward or away from the viewer, changing the angle of the light."
I'll stop focusing talking 3d in this thread since it's a C6 thread though.
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I wouldn't be shocked if at least one port was on a G series in 2028, or if Samsung ever made another 8k gaming TV or something, but I also wouldn't be shocked if there wasn't any HDMI 2.2 in 2028, either.
A dp80 to HDMI 2.2 (96) adapter could work. All of that stuff is a long way off still, either way.
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Hopefully they can iron out most of the wrinkles in the current gaming tvs before Black Friday ~ Xmas or other sales/price drops this year.
Who fabs LG’s silicon they use in their TVs?
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TSMC it seems. So if they wanted to save money it would make sense to not add hdmi 2.2 until the AI bubble pops and/or more capacity comes online. So 2028/2029 for hdmi 2.2 would seem a reasonable guess.
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TSMC it seems. So if they wanted to save money it would make sense to not add hdmi 2.2 until the AI bubble pops and/or more capacity comes online. So 2028/2029 for hdmi 2.2 would seem a reasonable guess.
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Seems like there are still some lingering minor issues that need to be ironed out:
Does look like it's a big step up over the CX/C1 though. And another firmware update is coming soon apparently.
Does look like it's a big step up over the CX/C1 though. And another firmware update is coming soon apparently.
So by the time it starts getting good discounts it’ll finally have a finished firmware.
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Apparently there was a firmware update on the newer tvs (at least the G6) - that fixed the HGiG "orange" on reds issues and maybe some other things, so it's hopeful that they will iron most of wrinkles out on all of them.
edit: re-read your image text and found it on avsforum, so ymmv depending on the fw version. Still I think they'll work that and the near blacks out eventually.
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Here is some other info I had google source from tech sites:
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From a google search that references "the Displayguy" 's results :
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How does the full featured model size G6, the non-heatsink C6H model, and the smaller apeture size + no heatink of the 48" C6 compare in 25%, 50%, and 100% screen brightness .... and especially sustained not momentary.
I don't sub to RTings but this is what google search genie tells me:
HDR Brightness: Peak vs. Sustained (Nits) [1]
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More interesting breakdowns between the 48" C6, the 45" 21:9 gx950a I had briefly before returning it, and my 48" CX.
Regardless of what the figures below say - in my experience, the gx950a had a weird lift/stretch of the hdr curve it did when in high brightness mode. That (or maybe some ABL variant?) seemed to dim the typical scene brightness making things outside of the laser bright highlights look dull and dimmer than even my LG CX , especially with the matte abraded layer on the gx950a making the blacks look flat on top of that.
google "genie" (gemini) result below.
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The Brightness Landscape
Window Brightness Comparison (Nits)
Key Brightness Behaviors
edit: re-read your image text and found it on avsforum, so ymmv depending on the fw version. Still I think they'll work that and the near blacks out eventually.
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Here is some other info I had google source from tech sites:
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From a google search that references "the Displayguy" 's results :
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How does the full featured model size G6, the non-heatsink C6H model, and the smaller apeture size + no heatink of the 48" C6 compare in 25%, 50%, and 100% screen brightness .... and especially sustained not momentary.
I don't sub to RTings but this is what google search genie tells me:
HDR Brightness: Peak vs. Sustained (Nits) [1]
| LG G6 OLED (Flagship Tandem) | LG C6H OLED (Large Tandem) | LG 48" C6 OLED (Compact Tandem) |
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| 10% Peak 3,000+ nits | 10% Peak 2,200–2,400 nits | 10% Peak 1,438 nits [1, 2] |
| 10% Sustained 2,481 nits [1] | 10% Sustained 1,950 nits | 10% Sustained 1,150 nits |
| 25% Peak 1,200 nits | 25% Peak 900 nits | 25% Peak 600 nits |
| 25% Sustained 880 nits | 25% Sustained 720 nits | 25% Sustained 480 nits |
| 50% Peak 750 nits | 50% Peak 550 nits | 50% Peak 400 nits |
| 50% Sustained 610 nits | 50% Sustained 440 nits | 50% Sustained 310 nits |
| 75% Peak 520 nits | 75% Peak 380 nits | 75% Peak 300 nits |
| 75% Sustained 460 nits | 75% Sustained 340 nits | 75% Sustained 265 nits |
| 100% Full-Screen Sustained 400+ nits (471 max) [1] | 100% Full-Screen Sustained 300–330 nits | 100% Full-Screen Sustained 245 nits |
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More interesting breakdowns between the 48" C6, the 45" 21:9 gx950a I had briefly before returning it, and my 48" CX.
Regardless of what the figures below say - in my experience, the gx950a had a weird lift/stretch of the hdr curve it did when in high brightness mode. That (or maybe some ABL variant?) seemed to dim the typical scene brightness making things outside of the laser bright highlights look dull and dimmer than even my LG CX , especially with the matte abraded layer on the gx950a making the blacks look flat on top of that.
google "genie" (gemini) result below.
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The Brightness Landscape
- The 48" LG C6 leverages a specialized 4-layer Tandem WOLED panel alongside the Alpha 11 Gen 3 processor. This pushes its temporary peak window brightness to massive heights (~1,440–1,500 nits). However, without a dedicated heavy-duty heatsink, its Aggressive Brightness Limiter (ABL) rapidly drops sustained values to protect the panel. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
- The 45" 45GX950A Monitor utilizes an MLA+ (Micro Lens Array) panel. It hits up to 1,300 nits at a tiny 1.5% window in High Peak Brightness mode. However, it is explicitly throttled at larger mid-window cross-sections to mitigate desktop burn-in risks. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Window Brightness Comparison (Nits)
| Display | 10% Window | 25% Window | 50% Window | 75% Window | 100% Window |
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| 48" LG C6 (Tandem) | Peak: ~1,438 - 1,500 Sustained: ~800 | Peak: ~694 Sustained: ~450 | Peak: ~389 Sustained: ~300 | Peak: ~287 Sustained: ~250 | Peak: ~245 Sustained: ~180 - 200 |
| 45" 45GX950A Monitor | Peak: ~900 - 1,000 Sustained: ~600 | Peak: ~673 Sustained: ~450 | Peak: ~350 Sustained: ~280 | Peak: ~290 Sustained: ~260 | Peak: ~270 - 275 Sustained: ~250 |
| 48" LG CX OLED | Peak: ~810 Sustained: ~680 | Peak: ~460 Sustained: ~410 | Peak: ~310 Sustained: ~280 | Peak: ~190 Sustained: ~175 | Peak: ~150 Sustained: ~140 |
Key Brightness Behaviors
- The Small Window Paradox (10%): The LG C6 wins overwhelmingly in bursts, clearing 1,400+ nits. It forces small specular highlights (e.g., explosions, flashlights) to pop significantly more than they do on the older CX or the 45GX950A. [1, 2]
- Aggressive Mid-Window Limiting: In mid-range windows (25% and 50%), testing reveals the C6 drops lower than expected (~694 nits at 25%). This is because the Alpha 11 processor aggressively preserves panel life when white subpixels are overdriven over a larger surface area. In comparison, the 45GX950A behaves more linearly around a 25% window (~673 nits) due to its specialized monitor-tuned algorithm. [1, 2, 3]
- Full-Screen Canvas (100%): The 45GX950A monitor handles large full-screen white windows better than both TVs, sustaining roughly 250–270 nits. The C6 drops closer to 180–200 nits in pure sustained full-screen scenarios to prevent thermal throttling. However, the C6 still destroys the aging LG CX, which falls short at a bleak 140–150 nits full-screen. [1, 2, 3]