Ripping UHD movies

I have like 300 4k movies. I've considered ripping them to a harddrive for a backup. Do I lose DV/HDR by ripping them? Do I lose Atmos? What software have you used? Is this even possible?

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yes. they are called a remux.

MakeMKV can do the ripping; that part is easy, IMHO.

Playback is harder, I haven't figured out what to use to do what I want (HDR10+ cause Samsung, Atmos bitstreamed cause I've got good receivers, menus would be nice). Assuming you're playing back from the network, and you're not transcoding down, your player needs faster than 100M ethernet cause some UHD scenes top out around 150 mbps. GigE will work, very good wifi might also work.

toast0 said:

MakeMKV can do the ripping; that part is easy, IMHO.

Playback is harder, I haven't figured out what to use to do what I want (HDR10+ cause Samsung, Atmos bitstreamed cause I've got good receivers, menus would be nice). Assuming you're playing back from the network, and you're not transcoding down, your player needs faster than 100M ethernet cause some UHD scenes top out around 150 mbps. GigE will work, very good wifi might also work.

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MakeMKV is great.

The answer for playback is an Apple TV streaming box plus Infuse (Infuse is only available on Apple devices). I have about 5 terabytes of movies and TV shows right now streaming from MEGA. I had everything locally stored to stream, but then I wanted to share my library with family, so I moved it all to the cloud (still keeping a physical backup, of course).

Infuse has an absolutely gorgeous interface with gigantic, beautiful thumbnails for each movie or show. Everything else completely sucks in comparison.

https://firecore.com/infuse

Better act fast drives that can rip UHD are few as manufacturers are shutting down. Not all drives can decode and rip, most need flashing to do so.

You're going to need some very large storage drives for this but at least they make 20-24TB consumer hard drives now. Most films consume between 50-100GB (separate from any secondary bonus features).

Each film with a fast drive (with unlimited speed reading via MakeMKV's LibreDrive) takes on average 45 minutes to rip to an MKV file.

And yeah you'll need a specific kind of BDXL Blu-Ray drive that either comes with the correct firmware (hardly any do now) or flash an older firmware to it. Not any BDXL drive will do, it needs to have 'mistakenly' supported Ultra HD reading in the past (so ironically drives that officially support Ultra HD reading aren't the right ones either). The MakeMKV forums have a list but the forum access is a bit flaky atm.

Also ripping directly to a container format like MKV (MakeMKV) differs from ripping the entire disc. With the former you're getting the film's video/audio/HDR/subtitle streams as a single playable file. While with a whole disc rip you're getting the disc as it'd appear when played in a standalone player (with menus, etc). MakeMKV allows on-the-fly decryption per se (afaict having MakeMKV open while the disc is inserted and LibreDrive action allows this) but to rip the whole disc to ISO you'd need to handle that aspect yourself via separate software/commands.

mamob said:

I'm looking to purchase and rip a few 4K UHD DVDs in the best quality possible to watch on my new 4K OLED monitor. A few searches on chatgpt tell me the size could be 60 GB to 100+ GB. I don't have any storage constraints, so is this even true? Or would I get the same size/bitrate as found online at the same resolution? I'd like it to be as uncompressed as possible. I'm trying to get as close of an experience as Kaleidescape films, without the massive price tag.

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You get higher bitrate than online of course. Size around 75 GB for full tilt.

yes, theyll be 50-100GB+ rips depending on the movie and what audio you include.
since youre talking about ripping your own disks i think it may be ok to post this, as youre not looking for piracy info....


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