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Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus Review - Intel's Fastest Gaming CPU

I wonder how much their profit margin is on these new chips at these prices. Considering they are using a more expensive node than AMD, have a large die size (unchanged from Arrow Lake?), etc...They are probably not making anything at all just trying to make a splash as they lost the market pretty much.

Nice to see them compete and all on certain scales, but doesn't really change much in purchasing decision imo when you factor it's a dead platform, costs them more, etc...Unless you just wanted to tinker with it that is. The true test will be next gen when Zen 6 and the follow up Intel platform hit. Hoping for some good competition, but time will tell.
 
erek said:
what if someone gets ibot working for 265K and turns them into 265K Plus SKUs?
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they have a bit of a different memory, cache and die-to-die interconnect, to beat a modern compiler output it must be quite optimised for the specific CPU caches and require a lot of manual labor at the moment, would not be surprised if once the push for those is down that they work and release it for the really close CPU (265-285k, etc...) and never for the older.
 
Ikasu said:
I wonder how much their profit margin is on these new chips at these prices. Considering they are using a more expensive node than AMD, have a large die size (unchanged from Arrow Lake?), etc...They are probably not making anything at all just trying to make a splash as they lost the market pretty much.

Nice to see them compete and all on certain scales, but doesn't really change much in purchasing decision imo when you factor it's a dead platform, costs them more, etc...Unless you just wanted to tinker with it that is. The true test will be next gen when Zen 6 and the follow up Intel platform hit. Hoping for some good competition, but time will tell.
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And Intel is also paying TSMC for the main silicon. And then I think TSMC ships the dies to Intel, and Intel "packages" them into a final CPU.

The margins have got to be teensy!
 
chameleoneel said:
And Intel is also paying TSMC for the main silicon. And then I think TSMC ships the dies to Intel, and Intel "packages" them into a final CPU.

The margins have got to be teensy!
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If any. I wouldn't be surprised if they are just moving this at cost to get some traction in the market. Performance wise it doesn't look bad at all for the price....Of the cpu at least, ram is making everything unaffordable...lol
 
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while not at cost, marginal extra chips are not that costly (and the tsmc 3N compute tile is big but still under 120mm I think, the rest are on older nodes), probably not that high with the fancy packaging, would not surprise me if the cpu cost a bit more than $150, for an under %50 gross margin instead of the usual 60%+

Maybe because arrow lake and the platform R&D has been amortized and it is a refresh they can make it work
 
erek said:
what if someone gets ibot working for 265K and turns them into 265K Plus SKUs?

what would you expect the performance difference would shrink down to between the 270K Plus?

ibot’s gotta be worth few FPS at least, its just artificially locked out of other arrow lakes

and ibot approach + modest OC could even close the gap if not entirely
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View: https://youtu.be/3mGxA_V1sFw?si=iz--8PC2tiNfpSqg

In this video, der8auer explores the performance potential of the Intel Core 270K Plus, a CPU that has gained significant interest for its price-to-performance ratio. The video details a process of testing, overclocking, and ultimately delidding the processor to push it beyond the performance of the higher-tier 285K.

Key segments and findings:

• Initial Testing & Overclocking (1:39 - 5:51): The CPU is tested with a custom water-cooling loop. At stock settings, it already outperforms the 285K. Through manual overclocking (5.7 GHz P-cores, 5.0 GHz E-cores), the team achieves 47,000 points in Cinebench R23, but hits thermal limits near 86°C.
• The Delidding Process (5:51 - 13:07): Due to the fragility of the 1851 platform, der8auer uses a specialized heating tool to reach ~160°C, melting the indium solder to safely remove the integrated heat spreader (IHS). The process involves precise mechanical cleaning and the application of liquid metal to improve heat transfer.
• Post-Modification Results (13:39 - 15:35): After delidding, temperatures under load dropped by approximately 17-22°C. This thermal headroom allowed for further overclocking to 5.8 GHz P-cores and 5.3 GHz E-cores, resulting in a benchmark score of 49,000 points—an 11% improvement over the initial overclocked state and beating the 285K's performance.

der8auer concludes that the 270K Plus is likely a re-batched 285K, offering extreme value for users willing to engage in advanced hardware modifications.
 
I am expecting a 270k this week.

That's a pretty slick kit for delidding. Not brave enough to try it on mine.
 
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