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    Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes “Internally Viral”

    I'm the one siding with the null hypothesis, but nice try trying to shift the burden of proof.
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    Google Employee behind Anti-Diversity Memo Is “Exploring All Possible Legal Remedies”

    Your argument is "men and women are different" because you can't prove that 9:1 disparity in the CS field is a result of biology. Which, like I said, is moving the goal posts. You'd have to prove the disparity as justified before you can argue for the dismantling of diversity programs.
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    Google Employee behind Anti-Diversity Memo Is “Exploring All Possible Legal Remedies”

    Did you look at the chart you posted? That's indicative of something rotten in IT. We're training all these people in CS, spending enormous resources, and then the graduates are throwing it all away to start over with something else. Not sure about you, but I have a strong distaste for things...
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    Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes “Internally Viral”

    I'm asking you to tell me how your theories on biology can explain a CS field that is ~90% male. I'm not even asking for (nor would I expect) 1:1 or even 2:1. dbr1 posted a big chart of SAT math scores with a whopping 6% difference between the sexes. Even if I took that as a given, I'd expect...
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    Google Employee behind Anti-Diversity Memo Is “Exploring All Possible Legal Remedies”

    Right. The crux of this,ALL OF THIS, is why are they not attracted to the CS field. You have one side which, emphatically, insists it's biological and there's no point in even trying. The other side says, maybe it's cultural, which means we could actually do something about it simply by...
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    Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes “Internally Viral”

    That presumes the goal is "perfectly proportional representation" (which I don't think anyone here has advocated) instead of "stop discouraging perfectly capable people from entering fields they would otherwise succeed in" as well as "don't hassle them until they leave the field out of disgust".
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    Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes “Internally Viral”

    Chimps are not people. "Behavior differences" is not "computer science".
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    Google Employee behind Anti-Diversity Memo Is “Exploring All Possible Legal Remedies”

    I keep posting that while other people keep posting the same "you have to tolerate my intolerance" line. I'd move on if they'd read the rebuttal and counter that. You know, move the debate along instead of repeating the opening argument ad infinitum. So, fair warning to all, do not respond to...
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    Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes “Internally Viral”

    Prove that those results are a "hardwired" difference and not a social constructed one. I mean, congrats, you've pointed out the achievement gap, which is the easy part. The problem is that brains and math classrooms don't exist in a vacuum. You have to account for any number of social factors...
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    Google Employee behind Anti-Diversity Memo Is “Exploring All Possible Legal Remedies”

    You've posted numerous non-sequitors, sure. Nothing that actually proves the argument at hand. My math is fine. You inability to grasp that diversity programs are not about individual candidates is where the problem lies. In other words, you concede the point but don't want to admit it. I'd...
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    Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes “Internally Viral”

    Not my fault you didn't dig into your own citation. I assumed we've all been to college and went through that class that told us Wiki articles, by themselves, are not entirely reliable sources. The only thing that articles says is that they haven't found a sample that beats the null...
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    Google Employee behind Anti-Diversity Memo Is “Exploring All Possible Legal Remedies”

    Sigh...one more time... Tolerance is not a Moral Precept - Yonatan Zunger But if you have ever tried to live your life this way, you will have seen it fail: “Why won’t you tolerate my intolerance?” This comes in all sorts of forms: accepting a person’s actively antisocial behavior because it’s...
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    Google Employee behind Anti-Diversity Memo Is “Exploring All Possible Legal Remedies”

    Prove how this relates to the recruitment and hiring of female CS engineers.
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    Google Employee behind Anti-Diversity Memo Is “Exploring All Possible Legal Remedies”

    This is nonsensical. Like, these two sentences make zero sense together. If you drop the second sentence, then you've literally just agreed with my interpretation of his premise. IQ tests are not tests of ability. Specifically, not the ability to be a software engineer.
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    Google Employee's Anti-Diversity Manifesto Goes “Internally Viral”

    You're just trying to move the goal posts from having to prove "women are inferior coders" to "men and women are different". As a reminder, the topic of the thread is the former. The latter is utterly irrelevant unless you can explicitly tie it to the former.
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