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Sucks AMD limited the places to review the chip. I also am not surprised either as their is little appeal to this chip, so yeah they wanted glowing reviews. With how close the next gen chips are, does it really matter, as they are selling these to people that just have to have the best right now. I can't imagine it selling well.
I imagine AMD will sell everything they make. I don't expect they are going to make a ton of these. Seems like a paper flagship. Not that they won't be on the market, I"m just not expecting anyone to have 100s of them on a shelf. Folks that were buying 9950x3d chips would likely be willing to shell a bit more for the ^2. Your correct though I don't think these are going to be landing on any sales charts. :)
 
AMD stock is at an all-time high so they are doing really well right now...earnings report comes out in a few weeks and is expected to bring the stock even higher
 
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-9950x3d2-linux
Only review I care about. /jk

These aren't gaming chips. Though IF you are a developer looking for the ultimate compile machine and are not looking to spend over 5 figures on a threadripper or epyc setup. I mean these have some serious advantage in specific workloads. [and I guess we should say it, cause Tech Jesus would love it.... AI is one of the biggest use cases for these haha]

Gaming isn't really where these shine. I mean they sampled Micheal at Phoronix... not the political youtube gamer hair dude for a reason. Gamers are not the target audience.
 
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Honestly he has become more and more unwatchable.

Since he has decided he is a documentarian getting political and questioning companies political donations. YA fuck em.

Companies don't have to play nice with anyone. No one is entitled to review product. If your going to turn into a bunch of assholes questioning every move a company makes trying to weaponize politics against them... expect to not be in their good books no. I'm sure Nvidia and AMD have about had it with Gamers Nexus. I'm sure he is questioning Intel right now about the % of the company owned by Trump... err I mean the federal gov right? Or I guess he wasn't a big enough documentarian yet to be asking those questions while he was at their US tax payer paid for fab projects.

Honestly at this point Tech Jesus needs to check himself. He isn't the industry moral authority and his acting like it has become grating. I don't blame AMD for ghosting him. He has transitoined from a tech reviewer to a tech industry moral crusader... as long as your morals align with his poltics it seems anyway.
Ya, I kind of feel this same way. I personally do not care about the "drama" really, I just want good solid reliable info around products to help make decisions. Seems a common feeling from some reddit replies to the video's also, with many asking when he flipped his rocker, and it being noted it has been happening for the last little while, went from good solid reviews, to just long drawn out rants now..
 
Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed are the only two tech reviewers I know who don't pull out Cinebench and Geekbench, or at least run these exclusively. This is still better tech journalism any other tech news source right now.
I really doubt you do not know of techpowerup or phoronix or igorlabs

other than AMD doesn't want in depth reviews,
I think that speculative, like igor seem to think:
What can actually be said about the selection of samples: Nothing!, https://www.igorslab.de/en/press-re...longest-cpu-just-not-in-the-benchmark-charts/

There a vast collection of people who did not get sample, with quite different backgroundsm same goes from the group that got some; HUB and Phoronix are a bit of the opposite spectrum when it come to reviewing CPU, is that not particularly in dept ? https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-dual-edition-review?page=2

Ou encore who they pick in the french market: https://hardwareand.co/dossiers/cpu/test-du-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-le-prix-de-l-excellence?start=1 or this one: https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/21/amds_ryzen_9_9950x3d2_dual/

was techpowerup avoided because they make specially in dept reviews ? does anyone imagine they are on anyone blacklist ?
 
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I stopped paying attention to sites like GN a long time ago once they figured out that sensationalist content and hit pieces made for more views than actual tech content.

With the tech sector sucking the teats of the AI boom they don’t really need to care about end users anymore, so none of this should really surprise anyone.
"I stopped paying attention to sites that talk about what sucks in the industry"

"The industry sucking shouldn't be surprising"

Quite a take.
 
I think a lot of this comes down to how Steve says what he says vs. what he actually says. Hence why some other outlets that say the same things aren't in the doghouse. Steve has an uncanny knack of making a compliment sound like a slap in the face. He can also turn a minor bullet point into War and Peace. I like/trust GN, but I hate having to wade through their content.
 
"I stopped paying attention to sites that talk about what sucks in the industry"

"The industry sucking shouldn't be surprising"

Quite a take.
Tech Jesus got political and started crowd funding documentaries, so he could take trips to China to talk politics.
If I was NV and AMD I would stop sending him samples... cause he stopped being a reviewer.

Tech commentators can fuck off. Its one thing to mention in a video things suck. Its another thing to crowd fund political documentaries about how Nvidia is skirting trade restrictions. And going on long rants about how AMD donated money to the wrong cause.

He choose to take his operation down a political path. NOW he is probably going to have to play politics yes. The people running the multi billion dollar corps want reviews, not political questioning, of their allegiances or whatever the hell it is he is trying to do lately.
 
Tech Jesus got political and started crowd funding documentaries, so he could take trips to China to talk politics.
If I was NV and AMD I would stop sending him samples... cause he stopped being a reviewer.

Tech commentators can fuck off. Its one thing to mention in a video things suck. Its another thing to crowd fund political documentaries about how Nvidia is skirting trade restrictions. And going on long rants about how AMD donated money to the wrong cause.

He choose to take his operation down a political path. NOW he is probably going to have to play politics yes. The people running the multi billion dollar corps want reviews, not political questioning, of their allegiances or whatever the hell it is he is trying to do lately.

To a point for sure, but following the money is also important, it's the reason corporations have political representation while we do not.

I have no patience for GN's biannual temper tantrums, but corporate money has completely consumed politics and every single eye on the process matters. They spend a lot of money trying to make stories about this shit go away because at the end of the day, those corporate barons are still afraid of us. You can buy politicians, but an angry mob is a motherfucker to buy off.
 
documentaries about how Nvidia is skirting trade restrictions.
Considering I did not saw a single B100, B200 or GB200 in it, not a single significant Nvida or AMD based computer (there was some under 20 gpus that had ampere generation in them to fill it up that fit in a closet), he was proving like the others newsources that it was working really well.

It just the title choice, for example:
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-i...lummet-following-super-micro-smuggling-arrest
or
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wall-street-eyes-300m-nvidia-121737986.html
or
https://www.ft.com/content/6f806f6e-61c1-4b8d-9694-90d7328a7b54?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Of course we can imagine, they do not catch much and maybe it is a big black market but we have no idea not a single person/organisation/new sources ever was able to track anything big going on. All those news tend to show how small the blackmarket operations seem to be, trying to keep it small enough to have a chance, a single US megadatacenter project of the 1-2 gigawatt type is like 35 to 100 billions with 20 to ~55 billions of Nvidia stuff in them, only 1 billion in 3 months for the whole country of China would be a great success and the measure working quite well, the goal is obviously not achieving zero and the totalitarian worldwide society you would need to make that happen.

A publication can choose the title, and say US/Nvidia measures seem to work well enough while not perfect, only 4 billions a year rate for the biggest country and biggest potential customer for AI hardware in the world that would order for many hundreds of billions a year, 1 trillion until 2031 or something like that if they could or you can phrase it as if it was a big number to people that did not look at outside china worldwide sales number of that stuff.

Most fake news are 100% factual and true, just need to choose the word, emphasis and lying by ommissions.
 
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To a point for sure, but following the money is also important, it's the reason corporations have political representation while we do not.

I have no patience for GN's biannual temper tantrums, but corporate money has completely consumed politics and every single eye on the process matters. They spend a lot of money trying to make stories about this shit go away because at the end of the day, those corporate barons are still afraid of us. You can buy politicians, but an angry mob is a motherfucker to buy off.
I would counter that is a reporters job.... not of a Hardware review Youtube channel.

I am not looking for reviewers that are just going to reprint a companies press release every launch.

On the other hand. If your going to use your access to the people at X or Y company (he has done this to AMD NV and Intel) to try and corner them on a larger company policy (like selling a completely un related non consumer part to a a country like China). I think it should be expected that at some point the people your contacts work for are going to say. STOP talking to those guys please. We don't need your soundbites being played at share holder meetings. You are supposed to be liaising with game hardware reviewers not citizen journalists looking to break our balls.
 
I would counter that is a reporters job.... not of a Hardware review Youtube channel.
It's clear that GN is not just a hardware review channel anymore. Hell, they spun off onto another channel dedicated to consumer advocacy.

Whether or not you like or agree with that change, is irrelevant.
 
Tech Jesus got political and started crowd funding documentaries, so he could take trips to China to talk politics.
If I was NV and AMD I would stop sending him samples... cause he stopped being a reviewer.

Tech commentators can fuck off. Its one thing to mention in a video things suck. Its another thing to crowd fund political documentaries about how Nvidia is skirting trade restrictions. And going on long rants about how AMD donated money to the wrong cause.

He choose to take his operation down a political path. NOW he is probably going to have to play politics yes. The people running the multi billion dollar corps want reviews, not political questioning, of their allegiances or whatever the hell it is he is trying to do lately.
Tech IS politics and politics IS tech. You may not like it, but it is the reality. Sticking your head in the sand won't save you from the results. And if you care about tech, you must first change the politics. It is a sorry state of affairs, but it is the state now.

Dismiss GN and what are you left with? Clapping seals influencers and soon to be irrelevant because of dying industry techies.
 
It's clear that GN is not just a hardware review channel anymore. Hell, they spun off onto another channel dedicated to consumer advocacy.

Whether or not you like or agree with that change, is irrelevant.
Oh its their choice.
I'm simply saying when billion dollar corporations start treating you that way don't act shocked.

Their main goals don't seem to be to review tech anymore. Which is fine such is their right. But if your going to be a consumer advocate your going to have to BUY a lot of hardware to review. (As Kyle has mentioned lol) To expect to be in on all the zero day PR review samples when that isn't what you intend to do with the hardware your given should be no shock at all. BUT shock face rage bait thumbnail for Youtube engage. :)
 
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Tech IS politics and politics IS tech. You may not like it, but it is the reality. Sticking your head in the sand won't save you from the results. And if you care about tech, you must first change the politics. It is a sorry state of affairs, but it is the state now.

Dismiss GN and what are you left with? Clapping seals influencers and soon to be irrelevant because of dying industry techies.
Are we all agreeing GN is the pinnacle of review sites or something?
They are just another Youtube channel. Tech Jesus believes himself more important then he actually is.
 
Oh its their choice.
I'm simply saying when billion dollar corporations start treating you that way don't act shocked.

Their main goals don't seem to be to review tech anymore. Which is find such is their right. But if your going to be a consumer advocate your going to have to BUY a lot of hardware to review. To expect to be in on all the zero day PR review samples when that isn't what you intend to do with the hardware your given should be no shock at all. BUT shock face rage bait thumbnail for Youtube engage. :)
I'm assuming you didn't watch the linked GN video, but...yeah, Steve says as much, they are not shocked by this at all. They don't mind having to buy the hardware, they are just pointing out AMD's actions and what appears to be at play.
 
I'm assuming you didn't watch the linked GN video, but...yeah, Steve says as much, they are not shocked by this at all. They don't mind having to buy the hardware, they are just pointing out AMD's actions and what appears to be at play.
What appears to be at play to me to be honest. Is this CPU is a direct market reaction to Intels new chips becoming a solid production use case threat. These chips are very good at production workloads. As Micheal at phoronix has shown in his review.

Why send a CPU that offers nothing new to gamers... to game review companies?
This is a production focused product it got sent to a bunch of reviewers that focus on production reviews. The people that will be buying this CPU WILL be reading phoronix... figuring out if the dual cache CCDs is solid for their AI development setups.

The upset and perceived slight imo is for clicks more then its reality.

I'm sure when AMD has GAMING parts that need reviewing GN will get samples.
 
Are we all agreeing GN is the pinnacle of review sites or something?
They are just another Youtube channel. Tech Jesus believes himself more important then he actually is.

I'm assuming you didn't watch the linked GN video, but...yeah, Steve says as much, they are not shocked by this at all. They don't mind having to buy the hardware, they are just pointing out AMD's actions and what appears to be at play.

I genuinely don't think anyone was blacklisted here. AMD said many moons ago that a chip with dual 3D cache would be very expensive for very little benefit aside from a tiny number of users. AMD was right, and there's no point sending these to most reviewers, because most reviewers are going to spam the same benchmarks and bitch about gaming when the thing has such a tiny use case.

The primary use case is for people that like to talk about their system specs, kind of like high end audio people they listen to shit music so they can hear their gear.

The cynic in me (most of me) thinks that this P.O.S. got released just to interrupt the "good" (not terrible) press Intel has been getting of late.
 
I genuinely don't think anyone was blacklisted here. AMD said many moons ago that a chip with dual 3D cache would be very expensive for very little benefit aside from a tiny number of users. AMD was right, and there's no point sending these to most reviewers, because most reviewers are going to spam the same benchmarks and bitch about gaming when the thing has such a tiny use case.

The primary use case is primarily for people that like to talk about their system specs, kind of like high end audio people they listen to shit music so they can hear their gear.

The cynic in me (most of me) thinks that this P.O.S. got released just to interrupt the "good" (not terrible) press Intel has been getting of late.
To be fair these are now the best AI/Database/compiling CPUs you can buy without going to threadripper or epyc server parts. They are quite a bit faster then either of the other 9950 parts in very very specific things. AMD seems to have seeded product to reviewers that would review those things.
 
Why send a CPU that offers nothing new to gamers... to game review companies?
Less so but they still market it to gamers (https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/pre...-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-dual-edition-processor.html), maybe HUB of the world were not a perfect target.

It could be that the PR guy like the HUB guys and when he had to pick a limited amount he went with them without much thought process going on, they seem to have a deep relationship.

This is a production focused product it got sent to a bunch of reviewers that focus on production reviews.
Hardware unboxed is a gaming first channel and they got one, there does not seem by people that looked at their list around the word to draw much conclusion on the strategy, if there was one, could have had been different people by market region deciding what to do with their limited amounts.
 
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To be fair these are now the best AI/Database/compiling CPUs you can buy without going to threadripper or epyc server parts. They are quite a bit faster then either of the other 9950 parts in very very specific things. AMD seems to have seeded product to reviewers that would review those things.

Anyone know if L1techs got a sample, I kind of avoid YouTube's drama industry so I haven't seen. Wendell would be the ideal target for a sample though.
 
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Anyone know if L1techs got a sample, I kind of avoid YouTube's drama industry so I haven't seen. Wendell would be the ideal target for a sample though.
Yes he got one https://forum.level1techs.com/t/9950x3d2-benchmarks-now-with-curve-optimizer/249182,
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PcO2k6vprY&t=1s, had MB/power issues I think, very limited review.

Serverathome did some agentic benchmark, phoronix quite a lot from facedetection to different projects size compilation or postgreSQL
 
Less so but they still market it to gamers (https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/pre...-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-dual-edition-processor.html), maybe HUB of the world were not a perfect target.

It could be that the PR guy like the HUB guys and when he had to pick a limited amount he ewent with them without much thought process going on.

Hardware unboxed is a gaming first channel and they got one
Fair point on HUB getting one. Though if I was going to defend AMD on that one. They are from Australia... could have been a X # to regional reviewers thing.
 
Hard to get too angry at this to be honest... oh no free samples aren't given out to some people.

Those outlets can always buy said hardware to test, and if you MUST be a day 1 adopter, that level of impatience is on you.
 
I'm assuming you didn't watch the linked GN video, but...yeah, Steve says as much, they are not shocked by this at all. They don't mind having to buy the hardware, they are just pointing out AMD's actions and what appears to be at play.
Yes, and he could of done all of that in 5 mins, not such a long drawn out video, which he covers content he has already ranted about in the past. This is my issue, there is getting a point across, then there is just endless side rambling and side tracking.
 
Hard to get too angry at this to be honest... oh no free samples aren't given out to some people.

Those outlets can always buy said hardware to test, and if you MUST be a day 1 adopter, that level of impatience is on you.
Unfortunately, that's not how the business model works. For some things, that's fine. But most of the clicks you'll get from a review are going to be on the product's launch day. If your not first, your last. That's pretty much how things work.
 
Unfortunately, that's not how the business model works. For some things, that's fine. But most of the clicks you'll get from a review are going to be on the product's launch day. If your not first, your last. That's pretty much how things work.
Ya, i always remember that rush of reviews coming out as soon as NDA's were lifted, was a race to be first, even if your review was, well, crappy or missed things..then you see the follow up reviews days or weeks later :D
 
Ya, i always remember that rush of reviews coming out as soon as NDA's were lifted, was a race to be first, even if your review was, well, crappy or missed things..then you see the follow up reviews days or weeks later :D
There were times where we had less than seven days to try and fully test the product and write the review for it. You don't get a lot of sleep and still barely manage to get things done. With new hardware there is a learning curve to it. Not only that but if you have problems, you have to deal with the manufacturer's PR people and engineers to get solutions. They'll release BIOS updates to the reviewers sometimes late in this process while you are doing your testing or are nearly done with it. Drivers, etc. are also sometimes rough and get updated as you go too.
 
I think my favorite was when we sourced Intel's next-gen CPU and published the review before the embargo date, after Intel would not supply it. Can't remember which CPU it was right now. All the tech journos cried foul saying I broke embargo/NDA. I did not agree to any embargo or NDA. I went to China, bought the CPU, and published the review. Fun times.
Hahahahahaha that shit was awesome and hilarious!
 
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Are we all agreeing GN is the pinnacle of review sites or something?
They are just another Youtube channel. Tech Jesus believes himself more important then he actually is.
They are the only major channel covering the industry from this angle. I would rather have one big channel doing that than them being just another review channel in a sea of others. They are the closest to the video media of what HardOCP was in written form. I don't have to point out the hole that was left in advocating for users' concerns once HardOCP shut down. I don't understand why we wouldn't encourage GN to continue, instead of bashing them for not being more of the same.
 
They are the only major channel covering the industry from this angle. I would rather have one big channel doing that than them being just another review channel in a sea of others. They are the closest to the video media of what HardOCP was in written form. I don't have to point out the hole that was left in advocating for users' concerns once HardOCP shut down. I don't understand why we wouldn't encourage GN to continue, instead of bashing them for not being more of the same.
The issue here isn't doing what they are doing.
IMO its two fold. One they have done a bad job of making things quite political, which is unwise. For many reasons.

Two DO NOT bitch when you get cut out of day zero hardware from companies you are attacking. Kyle got blacklisted, I don't mean to speak for him but it seems like it was a badge of honour. Not a OH NO NOS look the big bad corporation that I have been calling a big bad corporation for the past year is not being nice to me. Maaa business model !!!!

I get there is more to it then that. To me that is how it comes off. If you want to go down this path, well then you have to decide how your going to make it work if its your business. Thinking companies are going to keep sending you 10s of thousands of dollars in free stuff to review. When you spend 80% of your videos shitting on THEIR business model. Is frankly kinda dumb. If he wants to do that type of work cool... then like earlier sites like [H] that did try and write consumer focused 100% unbiased 100% uninfluenced articles and reviews your going to have to factor in the cost of both buying hardware and not having launch day videos for the algorithm. [I know Kyle pointed out an example where he was able to pre buy hardware and skit NDAs cause he wasn't under one... I also remember many times [H] reviews came after others. It was a choice Kyle made, he could have just shined shoes as well and got hardware 2 weeks before launch as well I'm sure]
 
For sites that have put up statements about not getting a sample, you can check out their musings as follows:
TechPowerUp believes that AMD was review shopping for outlets that would give them favorable coverage knowing that more in depth testing may result in a collective yawn from reviewing pundits. They also indicated the usual retail backchannels that have been used in the past were also not available due to strict AMD instructions.

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2026/04/21/sorry-folks-no-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-review-today/

I mean to be fair, Der8auer and HUB got samples, and AMD at least should have known they would be critical. I wouldn't be surprised if favourable coverage was a factor in their decision about who got one, but they did give it to some people who are respected in the community for their independence and objectivity.
 
The frustration comes from the fact the AI revolution wasn't possible without the gamer and enthusiasts community keeping the ecosystem alive until some big alternative uses showed up. And now that's it's here, that same community is an afterthought at best.

Publicly traded companies don't owe us anything for any of that. You can't simultaneously have a fiduciary duty to shareholders for maximizing profits while also saying you're going to cut your margins to "do gamers a solid" while those same components are going to be swiped up by AI people who would have been willing to pay triple the price. It sucks, I hate it, but that's reality, and I don't hate the companies for doing what they're supposed to be doing. Instead, I purchased shares once I saw this trend forming a few years ago, which turned out to be a better decision than simply complaining about the crappy consumer situation.
 
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-9950x3d2-linux
Only review I care about. /jk

These aren't gaming chips. Though IF you are a developer looking for the ultimate compile machine and are not looking to spend over 5 figures on a threadripper or epyc setup. I mean these have some serious advantage in specific workloads. [and I guess we should say it, cause Tech Jesus would love it.... AI is one of the biggest use cases for these haha]

Gaming isn't really where these shine. I mean they sampled Micheal at Phoronix... not the political youtube gamer hair dude for a reason. Gamers are not the target audience.

I mean AMD told us all of this ahead of time. There are a lot of people screaming about this being some kind of conspiracy theory on AMD's part to avoid bad press. They literally said years ago they tried this and the results were underwhelming. Their customers kept asking them for the product, so they made it. The pricing is stupid, but I'm not sure why they would be so hyper-sensitive about curating reviews for a product they essentially told everyone not to be that excited about to begin with. The manufacturer said to expect underwhelming results, they released their own internal results and said "see, this is underwhelming, but if you want it, $900 lol". I don't see the conspiracy. And some dude with an ROG Astral 5090 is absolutely buying this to "upgrade" his 9850x3D, you just know it.

I can't speak for all sources, and I personally watch GN's videos fairly regularly because I think they do interesting deep dives on stuff, but what did Steve expect? He's made several videos recently about AMD and Lisa Su colluding with the government, being anti-consumer, yadda yadda yadda. Did he think AMD would be like "cool man, want more free stuff?"? HUB was critical and got samples. Der8auer was critical and got samples. What those two guys didn't do is do a deep dive into AMD's political strategies and essentially call them the new evil empire.
 
I mean AMD told us all of this ahead of time. There are a lot of people screaming about this being some kind of conspiracy theory on AMD's part to avoid bad press. They literally said years ago they tried this and the results were underwhelming. Their customers kept asking them for the product, so they made it. The pricing is stupid, but I'm not sure why they would be so hyper-sensitive about curating reviews for a product they essentially told everyone not to be that excited about to begin with. The manufacturer said to expect underwhelming results, they released their own internal results and said "see, this is underwhelming, but if you want it, $900 lol". I don't see the conspiracy. And some dude with an ROG Astral 5090 is absolutely buying this to "upgrade" his 9850x3D, you just know it.

Yup, i remember that being part of an interview where they had tested dual 3d cache and it didn't make sense outside of a few apps and the cost was also a factor. Yet people went on and on about it, then they finally got it, engage more interwebs complaining.
 
Every AMD fanatic told us AMD cares about gamers. Those of us that know how business works said you are wrong. I don't expect a single one of those idiots to take what they said back.

Many of them are the same ones that said no one should hope AMD will die when they were having their problems because we need competition but now hope for the death of Intel.
 
Unfortunately, that's not how the business model works. For some things, that's fine. But most of the clicks you'll get from a review are going to be on the product's launch day. If your not first, your last. That's pretty much how things work.
Well he more than makes up for those lack of clicks by throwing out a 25 minute long videos on a subject that could have been handled in 5 minutes.

And there also undeniably is a level of brand loyalty for reviewers too, so while he won't get rando-views he will still get most of his subscribers or followers waiting for his review
 
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